I only found one PHRF listing for the Rhodes 22 Continental: 276,
which is similar to other shoal draft 22 footers. Have you found
anything different? I suspect that rating is for a boat with a
conventional rig (no IMF).
Gary Sanford
s/v Raven
05 Dec 2000
I've not been able to find any specific PHRF reference to Rhodes 22's
with IMF vs the standard rig. The USYRU PHRF Rating Handbook gives a
range of 258 sec/mile to 312 sec/mile, all fleets indicating limited
racing experience (reflecting the relatively small number of Rhodes
22 out there which are being PHRF raced) I suspect the 312 sec/mile
rating is with IMF & 258 sec/mile is with the standard rig.
The race committee at the Lake Dardanelle Sailing Club in
Russellville, AR had no experience with a PHRF rating for the
Rhodes 22. They started me out at 300 sec/mile in 1987. I was
steadily adjusted downward until my rating was 234 sec/mile in the
fall, 1990 season. In light to moderate air, I could sail to this
rating if I didn't make any mistakes & Daniel, my foresail trimmer
(7 years old at the time), didn't lose his concentration. At about
15 knots apparent wind speed, I needed to reef the boat to keep her
sailing on her lines & could no longer sail to this rating. With the
standard mainsail & if you sail in an area with predominantly light
to moderate air, if you can get a PHRF rating greater than about 260
sec/mile; then, smile quietly & clear off a space on the mantle for
the silver!
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
05 Dec 2000
Would someone please remind us all how the sailboat rating is used as a
Handicap. If I am in a race with another boat, how would I use the rating
to calculate the time I needed to beat the other boat? Thanks.
rob
08 Mar 2002
without rechecking i believe the phrf is in seconds per nautical mile so if one boat is a
270 and another is a 170 and the course is 5 nm the 270 boat can come in 500 seconds after
the 170 boat and it would be a tie.....thats how i remeber it but i am getting older and do
have my senior moments .....thats why im getting colored lines on triton
tom
8 Mar 2002
http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/what_is_phrf.htm
http://www.ussailing.org/phrf/TOT.htm
Mark Kaynor
08 Mar 2002
A boat with a 0 handicap is refered to as "the scratch boat". Handicaps are
given in seconds/nm & can be either positive or negative relative to the
scratch boat. To use the handicap system, you need to know the handicaps of
the two boats racing against each other & the length of the race in nm For
example, suppose the race is 10 nm long and boat A has a handicap of 150
sec/nm & boat B's handicap is 200 sec/nm. Therefore, boat A is
theoretically 200 - 150 = 50 sec.nm faster than boat B. Over a 10 nm
course, boat A would have to cross the finish line 10 nm * 50 sec/nm delta =
500 sec before boat B or else boat B would win on corrected time. Remember,
a smaller or more negative handicap implies a fastrer boat.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
08 Mar 2002
The Catalina 22 and the Rhodes 22 are both listed w/ a PHRF of 276at
http://www.phrfne.org/baseh.htm. I'd suggest checking to see if there's a
C22 in the fleet and see what number they're using - you should be pretty
close w/ that. Other boats that are listed w/ the same PHRF number are:
- BRISTOL 24 CORSAIR
- CHRYSLER 22 CB
- COLUMBIA 22 (+230)
- PEARSON ENSIGN *(U)*
- ROB ROY 23 *(U)*
Mark Kaynor
11 Mar 2002
A couple of years ago we had a long discussion about PHRF ratings (a
handicapping system that allows different types of boats to race against
each other, so that the skill of the crew and not the inherent speed of the
design is the determining factor). The higher the PHRF, the slower the
historical speed of the boat in racing conditions.
J boats have very low PHRF numbers both because they are inherently very
fast, and because people who do give a fig about such things tend to buy and
race them, thereby driving their numbers lower and lower as the skill level
of the fleet increases.
Rhodes 22 owners, as a group, are more interested in comfort than speed. As
a consequence, we get relatively high PHRF numbers when we enter racing
fleets--I believe you once mentioned a normal range of 258-312. You also
mentioned that because of the way you tuned your rig, and your ability to
sail your boat, (you kept winning with higher PHRF ratings) your fleet
lowered your rating to 234. You said you could still win at this rating,
but only under certain circumstances, and if you really sailed well. That
is the goal of PHRF racing.
It also provides both a benchmark and a racing opportunity for other R-22
owners. Anyone with an R-22 PHRF rating in the normal range has a boat
capable of winning every race. Discussions like this one let people know
that if any boat with a PHRF rating greater than 234 seems to be sailing
better than their Rhodes 22 the fault lies with them, and not with their
equipment.
This is useful knowledge whether or not one ever decides to purchase a
Loos gauge.
Bill Effros
22 Aug 2002
