[Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin

Rik Sandberg rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 01 Aug 2002 01:22:07 -0500


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Michael,

Well, all of your solutions seem to be working pretty well so far. 
Certainly no need to rush, we have been without most of this for years and 
have managed to live with it somehow. :-) :-) Maybe, after your emergency 
is over and you've got a chance to rest up a little the ideas will come 
easier. But yeah, the form idea sounds like a good one. Those that are 
brave can go ahead and fill it out and those that ain't so brave can sit 
around by themselves and have no one to go sailing with :-) :-) :-)

Heck, when you get right down to it, I bet I could find out where most of 
these folks are at anyway, whether they're on a list or not. And I don't 
think too many people would mistake me for a computer hacker.

Rik


At 02:00 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>the best bet would be a "form" that people could fill out, it thier choise 
>to "opt in", it is a programming job, best bet would be php and a mysql 
>for the database(both are load here). Both are to advanced for a "non 
>programmer", I am sitting trying to think of a idea, problem is the brain 
>is fried and nothing is coming ;-)
>
>MJM
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>Rik Sandberg
>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>
>Michael,
>
>I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 owners might 
>be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they hadn't been to, or 
>wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular area, it would sure 
>make it simpler to figure out who is where and get in touch. I know 
>everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail address is already out 
>there for anyone to look at if they want to and my name and address is in 
>the phone book for everyone that's interested to see. I don't see where 
>having a little personal info on our web site would really open me up to 
>any security problems that I'm not already open for. And, if we used our 
>passwords for access (members only) I don't see where it could really do 
>any harm. What do you think???? Doubt I could be much help in designing it 
>though.
>
>Rik
>
>
>
>At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill work on a 
>>"greeting" and a monthy "reminder". I got some stuff one the verion 2 of 
>>the list, but that it mosly programming right now.
>>
>><http://www.rhodes22.org>www.rhodes22.org could always use something. Any 
>>Ideas that you might want to see thier?
>>
>>MJM
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>Rik Sandberg
>>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>
>>Michael,
>>
>>Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put it mildly
>>
>>Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd like to 
>>have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to take on 
>>some more stuff, if there is something that needs attention.
>>
>>Rik
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>"It what I do", in truth the list does not use SSL, but thier are other 
>>>services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I been cutting 
>>>production machines over all day. doing the more crictial one tonight 
>>>durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind of borring.
>>>MJM
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>Rik Sandberg
>>>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>>
>>>Michael,
>>>
>>>Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich that way. 
>>>'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the president 
>>>either. So, I guess that's a good thing.
>>>
>>>Hope you get it all straightened out OK
>>>
>>>Rik
>>>
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>>>At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was of a mind to I 
>>>>could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the world.
>>>>MJM
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>Rik Sandberg
>>>>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>>>Michael,
>>>>
>>>>Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from McAfee a few 
>>>>minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this time of night.
>>>>
>>>>Rik
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>>>>At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the same thing tonight. 
>>>>>openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is a real screw up on 
>>>>>the openssl people front. Their is no problem with the list, a buffer 
>>>>>overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to secure privacy on 
>>>>>the web. The hole is big enough that the machine can be taken over 
>>>>>which is very very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a 
>>>>>security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it 
>>>>>as a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)
>>>>>MJM
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: <mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com>Rik Sandberg
>>>>>To: <mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>>Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? notice that there is 
>>>>>going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never seen that done before. :-) :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda tired of never 
>>>>>having a clue what the heck was going on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rik
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>>>>>At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>Looks like throes group screwed the pooch again(openssl), I have an 
>>>>>>emergency upgrade to the systems taking place right now, The SSL 
>>>>>>libraries are being replaced on this machine right now and the 
>>>>>>packages that they link to, security upgrade before the script kiddes 
>>>>>>find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 minutes 
>>>>>>outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, no 
>>>>>>member need to due anything, just a heads up.
>>>>>>MJM

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Michael,<br><br>
Well, all of your solutions seem to be working pretty well so far.
Certainly no need to rush, we have been without most of this for years
and have managed to live with it somehow. :-) :-) Maybe, after your
emergency is over and you've got a chance to rest up a little the ideas
will come easier. But yeah, the form idea sounds like a good one. Those
that are brave can go ahead and fill it out and those that ain't so brave
can sit around by themselves and have no one to go sailing with :-) :-)
:-) <br><br>
Heck, when you get right down to it, I bet I could find out where most of
these folks are at anyway, whether they're on a list or not. And I don't
think too many people would mistake me for a computer hacker.<br><br>
Rik<br><br>
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At 02:00 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>the best
bet would be a &quot;form&quot; that people could fill out, it thier
choise to &quot;opt in&quot;, it is a programming job, best bet would be
php and a mysql for the database(both are load here). Both are to
advanced for a &quot;non programmer&quot;, I am sitting trying to think
of a idea, problem is the brain is fried and nothing is coming
;-)</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>MJM</font>
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<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik Sandberg</a> 
<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> 
<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:45 AM
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<br><br>

<dd>Michael,<br><br>

<dd>I guess I kind of agree with Mary Lou, that a roster of R 22 owners might be pretty cool. If someone wanted to go to an area they hadn't been to, or wanted to meet up with other Rhodies in a particular area, it would sure make it simpler to figure out who is where and get in touch. I know everyone sweats about security, but hell, my e-mail address is already out there for anyone to look at if they want to and my name and address is in the phone book for everyone that's interested to see. I don't see where having a little personal info on our web site would really open me up to any security problems that I'm not already open for. And, if we used our passwords for access (members only) I don't see where it could really do any harm. What do you think???? Doubt I could be much help in designing it though.<br><br>

<dd>Rik<br><br>
<br><br>

<dd>At 01:17 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>I still have some of your stuff queued up :-) I think bill work on a &quot;greeting&quot; and a monthy &quot;reminder&quot;. I got some stuff one the verion 2 of the list, but that it mosly programming right now. </font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="arial" size=2>
<dd><a href="http://www.rhodes22.org">www.rhodes22.org</a> could always use something. Any Ideas that you might want to see thier?</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>MJM</font> 
<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik Sandberg</a> 
<dd>To: <a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> 
<dd>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:12 AM 
<dd>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<br><br>

<dd>Michael,<br><br>

<dd>Yeah, I hear ya, reboot......reboot.....reboot......sucks to put it mildly<br><br>

<dd>Long as I've got you on the line, is there anything else you'd like to have edited (if you can call what I do editing) I'd be happy to take on some more stuff, if there is something that needs attention.<br><br>

<dd>Rik<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>

<dd>At 12:48 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>&quot;It what I do&quot;, in truth the list does not use SSL, but thier are other services on this machine that do, It a day job thing, I been cutting production machines over all day. doing the more crictial one tonight durring low usage hours. watching 3 rebuild right now, kind of borring.</font> <font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>MJM</font> 
<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik Sandberg</a> 
<dd>To: <a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> 
<dd>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:48 AM 
<dd>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<br><br>

<dd>Michael,<br><br>

<dd>Too bad your so honest, you're not likely to get filthy rich that way. 'Course, your not likely to be called a bad bad man by the president either. So, I guess that's a good thing.<br><br>

<dd>Hope you get it all straightened out OK<br><br>

<dd>Rik<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>

<dd>At 12:31 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>NA, different animal, But I tell you something, If I was of a mind to I could take over 50% OF ALL the eCommerce sites in the world. 
<dd>MJM</font> 
<dd>----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik Sandberg</a> 
<dd>To: <a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> 
<dd>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:30 AM 
<dd>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin
<dd>Michael,<br><br>

<dd>Hmmm.......wonder if that's why I just got something from McAfee a few minutes ago???? Don't usually get stuff from them at this time of night.<br><br>

<dd>Rik<br><br>
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<dd>At 12:14 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>It not only me, 50% of the web should be doing the same thing tonight. openssl is used by everyone and every body. this is a real screw up on the openssl people front. Their is no problem with the list, a buffer overrun was found in the SSL libs that is used to secure privacy on the web. The hole is big enough that the machine can be taken over which is very very bad, extremity when you consider that SSL is a security package in it self. This is preventive medicine, thing of it as a condom before someone try to give us the clap :-)</font> <font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>MJM</font> 
<dd>&nbsp;----- Original Message ----- 
<dd>From: <a href="mailto:racerrik@rea-alp.com">Rik Sandberg</a> 
<dd>To: <a href="mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</a> 
<dd>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:08 AM 
<dd>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Headup, list admin<br><br>

<dd>Thanks Michael,<br><br>

<dd>Your doing a heck of a job. AND, what's this???? notice that there is going to be a problem????? What a concept. Never seen that done before. :-) :-)<br><br>

<dd>Thanks for letting us know, I, for one, got kinda tired of never having a clue what the heck was going on.<br><br>

<dd>Rik<br><br>
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<dd>At 11:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>Looks like throes group screwed the pooch again(openssl), I have an emergency upgrade to the systems taking place right now, The SSL libraries are being replaced on this machine right now and the packages that they link to, security upgrade before the script kiddes find out, the list might be slow 0:00-3:00 with about a 15 minutes outage as the machine is boot in to the new kernel and packages, no member need to due anything, just a heads up.</font> <font face="arial" size=2>
<dd>MJM</font></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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