[Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question

Bill Effros rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:53:47 -0400 

As has been discussed many times on the list, most of our surge brakes don't
work properly, but we all thought we had to have them due to various state
laws.

The governor of MD is saying the Federal laws supercede state laws, and
surge brakes are not sufficient.

I have always been a proponent of large tow vehicles, not for their greater
pulling power, but for their greater stopping power and longer wheel bases
which minimize the ability of the tail to wag the dog.

Bill Effros

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy@netreach.net>
To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question


Michael,
The article I saw mentioned that but evidently most of the discussion prior
to the veto had to do with the fact that they (the MD administration)
didn't want to approve something not approved by the Federal Dept. of
Transportation. I suspect that the Fed. DOT doesn't even get into
recreational vehicles. I can understand why they might not want to have
surge brakes on a semi. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
There are an awful lot of boats on trailers in MD. Don't know if the
BOAT/US legislative group is monitoring but they've been effective in
lobbying in the past.

Mary Lou


At 12:22 AM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I read the veto, get this, it because they do not work when you back
>up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>MJM
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm@michaelmeltzer.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:21 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fw: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ed Kroposki" <kroposki@innova.net>
> > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Rick, Dennis,
> > >                         What is the reason for making surge brakes on
> > > trailers illegal?  Does that include all brakes on trailers?  What
about
> > > those state that require brakes on trailers carry specified weights?
> > >
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dennis J Sitler" <djsitler@gmpexpress.net>
> > > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Rick,
> > > > I would be interested in what they might have to say, if it isn't
too
> > much
> > > > trouble for you. My plans are to get my boat sailable for this fall
up
> > > here,
> > > > and do more work on it and rebuild the trailer over winter. I hope
to
> > take
> > > > it down to the bay next spring to spend weekends there. I have seen
>boat
> > > > trailers with surge brakes, but I don't recall any with electric. I
>was
> > > > planning to get stainless steel disk brakes with a new surge unit. I
>am
> > > > planning on calling the MVA and getting information from them when I
>get
> > a
> > > > chance, maybe tomorrow. Appreciate any help,and thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Denny,
> > > > 1974 R22 Gossamer Wing
> > > > Berwick, PA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Rick Redmond <credmond@olg.com>
> > > > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Denny,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just saw this article in a magazine about Chesapeake Bay
boating.
> > So
> > > > its
> > > > > is true.  Check with your local police to see if MD can enforce
>their
> > > law
> > > > on
> > > > > trailers that are registered and tagged in other states.  If you
>like,
> > I
> > > > > could check with my local MD State Police Barracks to see how they
>are
> > > > going
> > > > > to enforce this law.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick Redmond
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Dennis J Sitler" <djsitler@gmpexpress.net>
> > > > > To: <rhodes-list@sailnet.net>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: [rhodes-list] Trailer Brakes Question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > This is a question to Rhodies in the Chesapeake Bay area. A
friend
> > who
> > > > has
> > > > > a
> > > > > > boat in the upper bay told me that the Governor of Maryland
signed
>a
> > > law
> > > > > > into effect making surge brakes illegal in the state. He also
said
> > > that
> > > > > the
> > > > > > fine was like $500 or more. Supposedly the law was for trucks
but
>as
> > > it
> > > > > > turned out it ended up including boat trailers. I need to put
>brakes
> > > on
> > > > my
> > > > > > trailer after I get my boat done ( whenever that happens). Since
I
> > > live
> > > > in
> > > > > > PA but want to sail on the bay this is a concern to me and
>possibly
> > > the
> > > > > rest
> > > > > > of you. I have a dual axle trailer that in PA if registered over
> > 3000
> > > > > pounds
> > > > > > needs brakes on all 4 wheels to pass inspection. I was going to
>put
> > 4
> > > > disk
> > > > > > brakes and a new surge unit on it. I think this is the ideal
setup
> > for
> > > > > this
> > > > > > type trailer. I could use any information on this situation
before
>I
> > > > spend
> > > > > > money on something that won't be legal where I want to use it.
Any
> > > help
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Denny,
> > > > > > 1974 R22 Gossamer Wing
> > > > > > Berwick, PA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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