[Rhodes22-list] Mast Bending & PHRF Rating
Richard F Sheehan
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:51:54 -0400
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Richard;
I got in touch with Doyle regarding a new main the sail they suggest has
2 full length battens at the head and 2 partial battens towards the foot.
Don't let them do it. The two full battens tend to cause a lot of
compression, and the sail has real problems coming down. They also [I
assume you are not using Doyle of Ft. Lauderdale] want to give you slugs
that are way undersize. Specify 5/16" slugs [Or whatever the largest
West Marine has] with a bail which has no flat things sticking out to
prevent free sliding.
Have them put in a grommet just below the top slug for your downhaul.
Halfway down the sail have them sew on a tab with a ring which will be
parallel to the deck. This keeps your downhaul a lady. It is called a
Kuhn ring after its inventor. The downhaul passes thru the Kuhn ring on
its way to the block at the foot of the mast.
I used a single reef point, but then I don't race. The Harken single
line reefing system works like a charm. When I get back to Florida, I'll
be glad to send you a few photos. Have them [NY Doyle] talk to Doyle in
Ft Lauderdale - we've gone through the hassle, and finally worked out the
best solution. The top two battens [which give the sail the big roach]
are parallel to the deck, just as the full battens were. They are
normal flat battens, but they terminate about 5" from the luff. They
cause no major compression, therefore the sail comes down easily.
Briefly, I have a triple block attached to a bail welded to the
tabernacle. These blocks accommodate three lines which are lead to a
triple deck organizer, then to a triple rope clutch at the cockpit. The
lines from fore to aft on the triple block are the main halyard, the
downhaul and the single reefing line.
On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:46:29 -0400 "R.G. Smith" <sailnut@asan.com>
writes:
The mainsail on my boat is pretty much shot also. My boat is a re-mfg
1990 and I insisted on the old style spars (non IMF) and the sail I have
is all that Stan had. I got in touch with Doyle regarding a new main the
sail they suggust has 2 full length battens at the head and 2 partial
battens towards the foot.
The sail they quoted was also loose footed! When I expressed surprise I
was told that (Doyle) was no longer building mains with bolt ropes along
the foot. There contention is that a loose footed sail set's better and
last longer.
Richard Smith
CPT Richard F. Sheehan
PO Box 117
Wellfleet. MA 02667-0117
PH: 508-349-3096
dickshee@juno.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Richard;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I got in touch with Doyle =
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new main the sail they suggest has 2 full length battens at the =
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<DIV>Don't let them do it. The two full battens tend to cause a lot =
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compression, and the sail has real problems coming down. They also [I=
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assume you are not using Doyle of Ft. Lauderdale] want to give you slugs =
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are way undersize. Specify 5/16" slugs [Or whatever the largest=
West=20
Marine has] with a bail which has no flat things sticking out to prevent =
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sliding. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have them put in a grommet just below the top slug for your downhaul.&=
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Halfway down the sail have them sew on a tab with a ring which will be =
parallel=20
to the deck. This keeps your downhaul a lady. It is called a =
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ring after its inventor. The downhaul passes thru the Kuhn ring on =
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to the block at the foot of the mast.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I used a single reef point, but then I don't race. The Harken =
single=20
line reefing system works like a charm. When I get back to Florida, I=
'll=20
be glad to send you a few photos. Have them [NY Doyle] talk to Doyle =
in Ft=20
Lauderdale - we've gone through the hassle, and finally worked out the best=
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solution. The top two battens [which give the sail the big roach] are=
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parallel to the deck, just as the full battens were. They are =
normal=20
flat battens, but they terminate about 5" from the luff. They cause =
no=20
major compression, therefore the sail comes down easily.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Briefly, I have a triple block attached to a bail welded to the=20
tabernacle. These blocks accommodate three lines which are lead to a=
=20
triple deck organizer, then to a triple rope clutch at the cockpit. =
The=20
lines from fore to aft on the triple block are the main halyard, the =
downhaul=20
and the single reefing line.</DIV>
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<DIV>On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:46:29 -0400 "R.G. Smith" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:sailnut@asan.com">sailnut@asan.com</A>> writes:</DIV>
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24082002>The=20
mainsail on my boat is pretty much shot also. My boat is a re-mfg=20
1990 and I insisted on the old style spars (non IMF) and the =
sail I=20
have is all that Stan had. I got in touch with Doyle regarding=
a=20
new main the sail they suggust has 2 full length battens at the=
head=20
and 2 partial battens towards the foot.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN class=3D718413818-=
24082002>The=20
sail they quoted was also loose footed! When I expressed surprise I=
was=20
told that (Doyle) was no longer building mains with bolt ropes along the=
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foot. There contention is that a loose footed sail set's better and=
last=20
longer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>CPT Richard F. Sheehan <BR>PO Box=20
117<BR>Wellfleet. MA 02667-0117<BR>PH:=20
508-349-3096<BR>dickshee@juno.com<BR></BODY></HTML>
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