[Rhodes22-list] Re: [rhodes-list] New list
Michael Meltzer
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Tue, 23 Jul 2002 10:26:32 -0400
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I suspect that most of the new members come from the rhodes22.com link =
page, frankly is hard to spot sailnets lists their site is focused more =
on the store. If you are a "old-timer" you know, but a new person would =
be hard pressed.
The link idea is a good one :-) I should have thought of it :-) the =
problem is mime is a pain-in-the-ass, the day job is eating cycles right =
now, I get to it soon(weekend maybe). For now the max size is 128k after =
that it needs approval, should be ok to dailup at that size. I also need =
to "demine" and "dehtml" the stuff for the archive and dijest, got a =
script for that but need to drop it in :-)
BTW rhodes22.org could use a home page. :-)
MJM
PS. ps people I will not cross post for long and you are missing stuff =
already :-)
http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Gardner, Douglas L. (LNG)=20
To: 'rhodes-list@sailnet.net'=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [rhodes-list] New list
I have worked closely with MJM in the past (setting up the photo =
site), and have complete confidence that this will be a superior list.
I do have 2 concerns, though.
1) The sailnet list probably gets more traffic from 'casual' browsers. =
How will new members find the new list? One possibility... I'll =
probably stay subscribed to both. If a few others do the same, we can =
point people in the right direction.
2) I like the ability to send attachments, but there should be a size =
limit. Some of us are still on a dial-up connection. 60k or so should =
be more than sufficient for a photo, and exceptions can be made on a =
case-by-case basis, based on expressed desire from list members. A =
future enhancement would be for MJM to dump all attachments into a =
directory and substitute with an URL pointing to it. That way we could =
put just about anything up there and not bog down e-mail downloads. =
(how do you like that Michael? We're already writing requirements for =
release 2.0! ;^)
Just a couple of thoughts.
--Doug
ps: OK, Michael. Maybe its time we work on the photo site again?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:11 AM
To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New list
YES!
Michael's new system works better than any system we have used =
before. =20
It is very very fast. =20
We can send attachments.
No ads. No spam.
We can direct people to Rummy's list, Tom's FAQ, and various picture =
sites maintained by others.
We can write our own rules for what is appropriate for our list.
We can maintain our list so we don't have to rebuild it if the =
service provider loses or changes its service.
Michael has done an incredible job in a short period of time. (This =
is standard procedure for MJM.) Someone has helped him proofread his =
work. Thanks to that person or persons.
Click on the link & sign up:
http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list=20
Make suggestions about how Michael can improve the way it works, the =
wording, etc.
This is truly our list.
I'm sure most of us will stay on the Sailnet list as well, but once =
you've seen the speed of a list working the way it should, you will find =
it difficult to go back to snail email.
Bill Effros
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Meltzer=20
To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:36 AM
Subject: [rhodes-list] New list
Some people might have noticed some Strange messages on the list =
here what is happening.
Well everyone, we know what happen last weekend, the sailnet list =
took a hit. Not liking the list being down I set up a new listserver =
under http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list .=20
1)It is a commercial grade server controlled by us
2)It is fast, message turnaround is under 1 minute, I make sure it =
stays that way(sailnet seems to be 2 hours)
3)attachment are ok(we control it)
4)The footer lines are for the list benefit, not to sell ad space
5)when people sign up they get the rhodes22 charter
6)The archive system is useable, bet even that will be improved
7)The control screen are simple and understandable
8)We control it to make it fit your needs
Well at this point I built it, it is open to all comers, are we =
ready for it?
MJM
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I suspect that most of the new members =
come from=20
the rhodes22.com link page, frankly is hard to spot sailnets lists =
their=20
site is focused more on the store. If you are a "old-timer" you know, =
but a new=20
person would be hard pressed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The link idea is a good one :-) I =
should have=20
thought of it :-) the problem is mime is a pain-in-the-ass, the day job =
is=20
eating cycles right now, I get to it soon(weekend maybe). For now the =
max size=20
is 128k after that it needs approval, should be ok to dailup at that =
size. I=20
also need to "demine" and "dehtml" the stuff for the archive and dijest, =
got a=20
script for that but need to drop it in :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BTW rhodes22.org could use a home page. =
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS. ps people I will not cross post for =
long and=20
you are missing stuff already :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><A=20
href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list">http://ww=
w.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list</A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddouglas.gardner@lexisnexis.com=20
href=3D"mailto:douglas.gardner@lexisnexis.com">Gardner, Douglas L. =
(LNG)</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes-list@sailnet.net=20
=
href=3D"mailto:'rhodes-list@sailnet.net'">'rhodes-list@sailnet.net'</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 23, 2002 =
9:15=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [rhodes-list] New =
list</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D287180413-23072002>I=20
have worked closely with MJM in the past (setting up the photo site), =
and have=20
complete confidence that this will be a superior =
list.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D287180413-23072002>I=20
do have 2 concerns, though.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D287180413-23072002>1)=20
The sailnet list probably gets more traffic from 'casual' =
browsers. How=20
will new members find the new list? One possibility... I'll =
probably=20
stay subscribed to both. If a few others do the same, we can point =
people in=20
the right direction.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D287180413-23072002>2)=20
I like the ability to send attachments, but there should be a =
size=20
limit. Some of us are still on a dial-up connection. 60k =
or so=20
should be more than sufficient for a photo, and exceptions can be made =
on a=20
case-by-case basis, based on expressed desire from list members. =
A=20
future enhancement would be for MJM to dump all attachments into a =
directory=20
and substitute with an URL pointing to it. That way we could put =
just=20
about anything up there and not bog down e-mail downloads. (how =
do you=20
like that Michael? We're already writing requirements for =
release=20
2.0! ;^)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002>Just a couple of =
thoughts.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002>--Doug</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002>ps: OK, Michael. Maybe its time we =
work on the=20
photo site again?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D287180413-23072002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bill Effros=20
[mailto:bill@effros.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:11 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> rhodes-list@sailnet.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
[rhodes-list] New list<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>YES!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Michael's new system works better than any =
system we=20
have used before. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>It is very very fast. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>We can send attachments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>No ads. No spam.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>We can direct people to Rummy's =
list, Tom's FAQ,=20
and various picture sites maintained by others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>We can write our own rules for what is =
appropriate for=20
our list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>We can maintain our list so we don't have to =
rebuild=20
it if the service provider loses or changes its =
service.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Michael has done an incredible job in a =
short period=20
of time. (This is standard procedure for MJM.) Someone =
has=20
helped him proofread his work. Thanks to that person or=20
persons.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Click on the link & sign =
up:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
=
size=3D3>http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list</FONT></A=
><FONT=20
size=3D2> </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Make suggestions about how Michael can =
improve the way=20
it works, the wording, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This is truly our list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm sure most of us will stay on the Sailnet =
list as=20
well, but once you've seen the speed of a list working the way it =
should,=20
you will find it difficult to go back to snail email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Bill Effros</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmjm@michaelmeltzer.com=20
href=3D"mailto:mjm@michaelmeltzer.com">Michael Meltzer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes-list@sailnet.net=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rhodes-list@sailnet.net">rhodes-list@sailnet.net</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 23, =
2002 1:36=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [rhodes-list] New =
list</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some people might have noticed =
some Strange=20
messages on the list here what is happening.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well everyone, we know what =
happen last=20
weekend, the sailnet list took a hit. Not liking the list being =
down I set=20
up a new listserver under <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3>=20
</FONT><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
=
size=3D3>http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list</FONT></A=
> .=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1)It is a commercial grade server =
controlled=20
by us</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2)It is fast, message turnaround =
is under 1=20
minute, I make sure it stays that way(sailnet seems to be 2=20
hours)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3)attachment are ok(we control=20
it)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4)The footer lines are for the =
list benefit,=20
not to sell ad space</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5)when people sign up they get =
the rhodes22=20
charter</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6)The archive system is useable, =
bet even=20
that will be improved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7)The control screen are simple =
and=20
understandable</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>8)We control it to make it fit =
your=20
needs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well at this point I built it, it =
is open to=20
all comers, are we ready for it?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</DIV>
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