[Rhodes22-list] Electrical KISS
Rik Sandberg
racerrik@rea-alp.com
Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:05:48 -0600
Brad,
Sounds good as long as your sitting still. I was thinking about a small
platform that would hang over the transom though, myself. Not so far to
carry it. Or maybe above/on top of, the outboard somehow. don't know yet,
got to think on that some more.
If you are going to use it on the bow, maybe a pad of fairly stiff foam, or
other rubber type stuff under it might dampen that vibration you were
noticing. I think I would find a way to bungee it to the pulpit or
something too. Never know when you might get a big power boat wake coming
through and then....Ooops. But, when sitting still (anchored) your boat
will generally be oriented bow to wind, so your exhaust concerns are
probably warranted. This is mostly why I was shooting for the transom mount.
Rather than worrying about using the 12 volt outlets intermittently, I
would just use a 110v charger. In fact, I have used the normal shore power
cord to the shore power inlet box in the past and just plugged my charger
into one of the 110v outlets in the cabin. If you don't have a shore power
chord, a regular 25 ft. extension cord with an adapter should reach to most
anywhere on the boat. But, like you said, a fellow's going to have to be
darn careful.
Rik
At 11:23 AM 11/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Rik, right after I got the Honda I set it on the boat
>in the bow pulpit area, pointed the exhaust forward,
>and sat in the cabin with the portholes closed. You
>could feel a little vibration and almost no noise. I
>would be concerned running it with the portholes open
>and no wind or wind bow to stern. The power went out
>here last month and I started it in the garage with
>the door closed (I'm not that stupid, just impatient).
> It produces more exhaust than I would have guessed
>for its size. Maybe the key to its use is to find a
>good way to secure it forward while in use with a
>custom length cord to the AC power inlet. Supposedly
>the DC output is for battery charging and not
>continous use. The internal gas tank vent shuts off
>so I don't think fumes in the lazeret would be a
>problem. The biggest hazard I can think of so far is
>dropping the cord in the water while its running.
>Plug into the generator last and it shouldn't be a
>problem. I installed a GFC outlet in the boat and the
>Honda has its own protection. What have I forgotten?
>Brad
> --- Rik Sandberg <racerrik@rea-alp.com> wrote:
> > Oh yeah, it's a collection allright!!!!
> >
> > Only problem I have with the genset so far, is
> > figuring out a platform or
> > place where it can sit, run and still be out of the
> > way. It can sit on the
> > seat, but I don't like that, it's in the way. It's
> > quiet enough that the
> > noise isn't really an issue. It can sit down in the
> > laz. when you aren't
> > using it and you more than likely have that big old
> > shore power cord along
> > anyway, probably the battery charger too. Since we
> > already have one anyway,
> > seems like an easy solution, eh??? Oh jeez, I've
> > found a use for one of
> > those things I bought. :-)
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > At 10:53 AM 11/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > >Rik, lemme think, the Honda generator weighs 26
> > lbs.
> > >An extra battery weighs,,,,,, hey wait a minute!
> > Why
> > >didn't I think of that? Is this list what people
> > are
> > >talking about when they mention "collective mind"?
> > >Brad
> > >--- Rik Sandberg <racerrik@rea-alp.com> wrote:
> > > > Brad,
> > > >
> > > > Boy, bet if you want to run a coffee maker 2 or
> > 3
> > > > times a day, you're going
> > > > to looking at bringing along the Honda. That
> > ain't
> > > > all bad though. It sure
> > > > lessens the "have to pay attention" factor. I've
> > got
> > > > one of those too.
> > > > They're light and they don't take up much room.
> > > > Hardly any more than that
> > > > second battery. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Far as the math for the coffee maker. That
> > sounds
> > > > like a job for Roger, our
> > > > chief mathematician.
> > > >
> > > > Rik
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 10:34 AM 11/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >Actually there is one high power draw
> > application
> > > > that
> > > > >I'm condidering but because I haven't done the
> > math
> > > > >yet I haven't thrown it out to the list for
> > > > >discussion. My boat doesn't have a stove and
> > there
> > > > >really isn't a single one I've seen yet that
> > fills
> > > > all
> > > > >the squares for me. I'm not paranoid but I
> > have
> > > > seen
> > > > >all the pictures from the early days of the
> > DC-10
> > > > >where one of our Middle Eastern friends set the
> > > > >airplane on fire cooking goat on the way to
> > Mecca.
> > > > >Starting an open flame in an R-22 galley
> > doesn't
> > > > apeal
> > > > >to me so here's the idea: I need hot water
> > about
> > > > 2-3
> > > > >times a day, once for coffee, maybe soup, and
> > my
> > > > >daughter's needs. A 12v DC coffee maker would
> > do
> > > > the
> > > > >trick without the need for a stove. If I keep
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > >down to 15 minutes at a time for less than 2-3
> > > > times a
> > > > >day I think an extra battery would suffice. If
> > > > >someone has already done this or wants to "run
> > the
> > > > >numbers" let me know (I never pass up free math
> > > > >tutoring or electrical engineering). Brad.
> > > > >
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