[Rhodes22-list] Wally's comment on Roger's Reply
Wally Buck
tnrhodey@hotmail.com
Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:51:38 -0500
Hopefully you know I was joking (note smile below), I just liked Roger's
answer, it was great advice....heck these days GE can hardly afford to pay
people what they are worth, check their stock. Not that I own that much of
it but it had always been old faithful, now it sucks just like everything
else. My apologies to any GE employees and my father in-law in particular
(ex GE for 25 years) <grin>
I got a nice sail in today. I hope fall holds out for a couple of more
weeks.
Wally (this time only half joking)
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki@innova.net>
>Reply-To: kroposki@innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's comment on Roger's Reply
>Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:11:35 -0500
>
>Wally:
> Stan cannot afford to pay Roger, or anybody else, what they are
>worth. General Boats should not be confused with General Electric.
> Ed K
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Wally Buck
>Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 8:58 AM
>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Right from the get go
>
>Roger,
>
>Stan should pay you for this stuff. :-)
>
>Alice,
>
>Welcome aboard. Not much to add to Roger's excellent response. I bought
>my
>84 Rhodes 22 this Spring and love my boat. If you have any questions ask
>
>away. GB is a great company to deal with. I did not purchase my boat
>from
>them but I have still managed to spend about $700 this year on add ons
>and I
>am not yet done. I have the IMF Main and my boat did not come with the
>GB
>Mast Hoist. If you go IMF get the hoist unless you will have a couple of
>
>strong guys to help, the mast is very heavy. With the hoist it is very
>simple and I can do by myself. Much safer.
>
>Wally, Knoxville TN
>
>
> >From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402@centurytel.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Right from the get go
> >Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:05:59 -0500
> >
> >Hi Alice!
> >
> >Check out the following links:
> >
> >1) Photos of Rhodes boats <http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/index.html>
> >2) Frequently Asked Questions <http://www.geocities.com/blew_skies/>
> >3) Documentation Library <http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/>
> >
> >Welcome aboard. The options you will want to order depend upon what
>you
> >plan to do with your R-22.
> >
> >For example, do you plan to trailer the boat to distant waters or will
>you
> >keep it in the water someplace local? If you plan to trailer allot,
>then
> >get the Unimatic trailer. If not, then have your local marina provide
>you
> >with a storage cradle.
> >
> >How much sailing experience do you have? It sounds like this may be
>your
> >1st sailboat. Are you performance or convenience oriented? If you are
> >inclined towards racing or just getting the most speed out of your
>boat,
> >then get the standard mainsail. On the other hand, if your
>inclinations
> >are
> >more towards painless sailing with no hassles or if the thought of
>leaving
> >the cockpit to go to the mast to handle the mainsail scares you a
>little,
> >then get the IMF mainsail.
> >
> >Most R-22's come with some sort of auxiliary engine. The required size
> >depends upon the waters in which you will use the boat. The minimum
>engine
> >size is about 2 hp & that will only be large enough to maneuver the
>boat
> >around a dock or launch ramp when there is virtually no wind or
>current, in
> >other words in very sheltered protected water under almost ideal
> >conditions.
> >If you plan to use your R-22 in bigger waves, wind, or current, think
>you
> >may need to use the engine sometimes to get somewhere, &/or would like
>to
> >have an alternator to recharge your batteries while the engine is
>running;
> >then you should upgrade to at least 6 hp. I use an 8 hp outboard on
>the
> >Great Lakes & lots of R-22 owners use a 9.9 hp outboard. Whatever size
> >outboard you choose, get at least a "long shaft" version so that the
>prop
> >will reach the water. Some outboards offer the option of an "extra
>long
> >shaft" version which will submerge the prop an extra couple of inches.
>
> >This
> >extra immersion depth is a good deal if you plan on being able to motor
>the
> >boat in waves larger than about 3 feet. If you plan on using the boat
>only
> >in protected water where the waves don't normally get that big, then
>don't
> >bother with the extra expense & weight of the extra long shaft option.
> >Whatever size & make of outboard you choose, the GBI outboard motor
>mount
> >is
> >a good deal. Outboard motors come in two types of engines these days,
> >2-cycle & 4-cycle. 2-cycle engines are initially cheaper & lighter &
>have
> >no internal crankcase oil to leak out if you set them down wrong. But,
> >2-cycle engines require you to mix oil with your gasoline, get about
>half
> >the fuel economy, are noisier, & emit about 10X more pollution & smoke
>than
> >the 4-cycle engines. 4-cycle engines are quieter, burn straight
>gasoline,
> >emit no smoke & much less pollution, & get about twice as many miles
>per
> >gallon. Electric start or manual-only (pull cord) start? How strong
>are
> >you? The larger the engine, the harder it will be to pull start &
>4-cycle
> >engines tend to be harder to pull start than 2-cycle engines. But,
>getting
> >electric start also requires you to have a starting battery, which adds
> >weight & extra cost. Do you want remote cockpit or tiller mounted
>engine
> >controls? Well, I have them & I love them. They make pulling up to a
>dock
> >much easier & they just make the boat seem more "yachtlike". However,
>they
> >do add cost & you can get by using only the engine controls mounted on
>the
> >outboard engine. If you are going to have any sort of on-board
>electrical
> >system on your R-22, then you will have at least one or perhaps two
> >batteries. How will you recharge that battery? One option is to have
>a
> >built-in alternator on the outboard engine. Another possibility is the
>GBI
> >solar cell option. For the record, my R-22 has an 8 hp Honda 4-cycle
> >outboard with remote cockpit engine controls, an alternator, extra long
> >shaft engine, & no electric start.
> >
> >Do you sunburn easily or live in an area where the afternoon sun beats
>down
> >mercilessly? If so, then the bimini top provides welcome shade in the
> >cockpit.
> >
> >If you plan to just simply daysail the boat, then you can get by with a
>
> >very
> >lightly optioned boat. If you plan to cruise & stay overnight on the
>boat,
> >then you will need the galley, pop top enclosure, head, shore power,
>etc.
> >Do you plan to sail out of sight of land or in unfamiliar waters? If
>so,
> >then instruments like compass, knotlog, depthsounder, & GPS are pretty
> >important things to have on board. Wherever you plan to sail, get a
>good
> >pair of waterproof 7 X 50mm binoculars.
> >
> >If you are planning to stay overnight on the boat with more than a
>couple
> >of
> >people, then the boom room enclosure is a good deal. It's an expensive
> >option, but much cheaper than a bigger boat!
> >
> >It's pretty much impossible to raise & lower the mast by yourself
>without
> >some sort of mechanical aid. Will you always have help when you raise
>&
> >lower the mast? If not, then the GBI single-handed mast raising option
>is
> >a
> >good deal.
> >
> >Lifelines, or stainless steel railings, or nothing at all? How
>coordinated
> >are you? Will you be sailing with young children? Will you be sailing
> >alone? Will you be sailing on "blue water" or in a small protected
>cove?
> >My R-22 has a custom set of stainless steel railings that I built
>myself.
> >But, this was before the factory started offering their stainless
>railing
> >option. I'd have probably bought the factory railing option if it had
>been
> >available. In my opinion, the lifelines are a pretty useless, even
> >dangerous option. They are too low to be useful at keeping you aboard,
> >might even cause you to go over backwards by tripping right behind the
> >knees, tend to snag sails & lines, & tend to make boarding & unboarding
>
> >from
> >a dock more difficult. But, the stainless steel railings are an
>expensive
> >option & lots of R-22's have nothing at all.
> >
> >I would recommend you check out the FAQ & photo pages listed above.
>Then,
> >if you have any specific questions, ask away & the list will try to
>help.
> >
> >Roger Pihlaja
> >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <AMICW@aol.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:16 PM
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Right from the get go
> >
> >
> > > Hi Rhodes owners! I will be purchasing a "recycled" rhodes and
>would
> >like
> >to
> > > inquire as to which "optional" features you find most
>needed/useful.
> >Thanks
> > > for the help.
> > > Alice
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