[Rhodes22-list] Document library
Michael Meltzer
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Mon, 2 Sep 2002 18:54:27 -0400
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lets see, we are talking about the capitalists systems here, right =
comrade :-)
Charging for information is nominal, like a newspaper is 50 cents(plus =
the adds), buying a book in a story, phone sex, network TV you must =
watch the avd that pay the bills, in my case I charge my clients to for =
answers, I do give dumb looks for free. Are you really saying that we =
should charge your billable rates for advice on the list, I am sure you =
are not going to say the advice here has no value :-), I sure I should =
rig a system with credit cards on file for this, Master Card, visa and =
Amex accept here :-) How far do you want to push this idea :-) And are =
you on a fade diet high amounts of shoe leather :-)
MJM
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Toad the Wet Sprocket=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library
Stan was right on most counts.....but one. That fact that I got =
my boat as a freebie isn't what conditioned to expect free advice (I =
never asked for any services just prices and literature). The principle =
that conditioned me to getting a few questions answered and some =
literature is called the American system of free enterprise.=20
Please respond to sprocket80@hotmail.com
From: General Boats=20
Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library=20
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 05:40:52 -0400=20
Dear Rhodies:=20
We will try to respond to your thread re some of GBI's policies in an=20
unconventional manner - a series of e-mails tied to the issue of the=20
particular Rhodes owner.=20
Response #3.=20
Toad:=20
We agree with Toad in his saying,=20
> "You are right. I should not have gotten this boat ......"=20
>=20
> The Rhodes is a very special boat and the kind of buyers it attracts =
> are even more special. Not everyone can feel comfortable in this=20
> enviorn and that is why the god of sailboat manufacturing made =
Hunters=20
> and Macgregors and Catalinas. And that is why some who only =
recognize=20
> the differences without owning a Rhodes, like a Razz, do feel=20
> comfortable in this setting.=20
>=20
> Toad says that, "The only reason I have this boat is because it was =
a=20
> freebie,,," and that has conditioned him to expect not only free=20
> service but instant free service, even if it should cause poorer=20
> service to those who have paid for their boats. And we are with =
Toad,=20
> if only we could be shown the way.=20
>=20
> Toad goes on to say, "I downloaded and read the manual for the=20
> Chrysler...pretty remarkable for a company no longer in business =
huh?"=20
>=20
> Let me tell you a little incident about Chrysler. As many of you=20
> know, we are an amazingly old company for the sailboat busines - 43=20
> years old. And, an unbelievably small company for our age and the=20
> noise we make - only 4 new Rhodes last year.=20
>=20
> Long after we had been in business Chrysler came along and decided =
to=20
> go head on with us with a new 22. When Chrysler needed help they =
went=20
> to the government and got millions to bail them out. I bunked into =
my=20
> congressman one day and told him I wanted to compalin about a=20
> discrimiantion issue. He put his arm around me and said, "we can't=20
> allow that". So I explained that I was being discriminated against=20
> because I could not get the government to give us money yet they =
gave=20
> it to another company competing with us building a 22' sailboat. He=20
> said he voted for that loan because they were big and we were just =
too=20
> small to be oncerned with.=20
>=20
> The Chryslers were nice boats but had some major design flaws and =
they=20
> were discontinued. If you feel that to be able to get their manual=20
> free is an asset - for heaven's sake, buy a Chrysler. Our manuals =
are=20
> also free - just buy a Rhodes.=20
>=20
stan/gbi=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>lets see, we are talking about the =
capitalists=20
systems here, right comrade :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Charging for information is nominal, =
like a=20
newspaper is 50 cents(plus the adds), buying a book in a story, phone =
sex,=20
network TV you must watch the avd that pay the bills, in my case I =
charge my=20
clients to for answers, I do give dumb looks for free. Are you =
really=20
saying that we should charge your billable rates for advice on the list, =
I am=20
sure you are not going to say the advice here has no value :-), I sure I =
should=20
rig a system with credit cards on file for this, Master Card, visa and =
Amex=20
accept here :-) How far do you want to push this idea :-) And are you on =
a fade=20
diet high amounts of shoe leather :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MJM</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsprocket80@hotmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">Toad the=20
Wet Sprocket</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 02, =
2002 4:09=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
Document=20
library</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P> Stan was right on most counts.....but=20
one. That fact that I got my boat as a freebie isn't what=20
conditioned to expect free advice (I never asked for any services just =
prices=20
and literature). The principle that conditioned me to =
getting=20
a few questions answered and some literature is called the American =
system of=20
free enterprise. <BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>Please respond to <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sprocket80@hotmail.com">sprocket80@hotmail.com</A></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>From: General Boats <WWRHODES@RHODES22.COM>
<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
<DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Document library=20
<DIV></DIV>Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 05:40:52 -0400=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Dear Rhodies:=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>We will try to respond to your thread re some of GBI's =
policies in=20
an=20
<DIV></DIV>unconventional manner - a series of e-mails tied to the =
issue of=20
the=20
<DIV></DIV>particular Rhodes owner.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Response #3.=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Toad:=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>We agree with Toad in his saying,=20
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> "You are right. I should not have gotten this boat =
......"=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> The Rhodes is a very special boat and the kind of =
buyers it=20
attracts=20
<DIV></DIV>> are even more special. Not everyone can feel =
comfortable in=20
this=20
<DIV></DIV>> enviorn and that is why the god of sailboat =
manufacturing made=20
Hunters=20
<DIV></DIV>> and Macgregors and Catalinas. And that is why some who =
only=20
recognize=20
<DIV></DIV>> the differences without owning a Rhodes, like a Razz, =
do feel=20
<DIV></DIV>> comfortable in this setting.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> Toad says that, "The only reason I have this boat is =
because=20
it was a=20
<DIV></DIV>> freebie,,," and that has conditioned him to expect not =
only=20
free=20
<DIV></DIV>> service but instant free service, even if it should =
cause=20
poorer=20
<DIV></DIV>> service to those who have paid for their boats. And we =
are=20
with Toad,=20
<DIV></DIV>> if only we could be shown the way.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> Toad goes on to say, "I downloaded and read the manual =
for the=20
<DIV></DIV>> Chrysler...pretty remarkable for a company no longer =
in=20
business huh?"=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> Let me tell you a little incident about Chrysler. As =
many of=20
you=20
<DIV></DIV>> know, we are an amazingly old company for the sailboat =
busines=20
- 43=20
<DIV></DIV>> years old. And, an unbelievably small company for our =
age and=20
the=20
<DIV></DIV>> noise we make - only 4 new Rhodes last year.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> Long after we had been in business Chrysler came along =
and=20
decided to=20
<DIV></DIV>> go head on with us with a new 22. When Chrysler needed =
help=20
they went=20
<DIV></DIV>> to the government and got millions to bail them out. I =
bunked=20
into my=20
<DIV></DIV>> congressman one day and told him I wanted to compalin =
about a=20
<DIV></DIV>> discrimiantion issue. He put his arm around me and =
said, "we=20
can't=20
<DIV></DIV>> allow that". So I explained that I was being =
discriminated=20
against=20
<DIV></DIV>> because I could not get the government to give us =
money yet=20
they gave=20
<DIV></DIV>> it to another company competing with us building a 22' =
sailboat. He=20
<DIV></DIV>> said he voted for that loan because they were big and =
we were=20
just too=20
<DIV></DIV>> small to be oncerned with.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>> The Chryslers were nice boats but had some major =
design flaws=20
and they=20
<DIV></DIV>> were discontinued. If you feel that to be able to get =
their=20
manual=20
<DIV></DIV>> free is an asset - for heaven's sake, buy a Chrysler. =
Our=20
manuals are=20
<DIV></DIV>> also free - just buy a Rhodes.=20
<DIV></DIV>>=20
<DIV></DIV>stan/gbi=20
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