[Rhodes22-list] Bahamas

Bill Effros rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Wed, 4 Sep 2002 19:46:58 -0400


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The answer is "yes" but the question remains if this is a good idea.

Here is Roger's response to the idea from 2 years ago:

Just a data point, for whatever it's worth.  Last winter, I crewed =
aboard a
36 foot, center cockpit, ketch on a delivery cruise from Florida to the
Bahamas.  Most sailboats we encountered in the Bahamas were 36 feet long =
or
bigger.  However, there was this one fellow we met.  He was anchored at
Nassau.  His 24 foot sloop had jerry cans & other stuff lashed =
everywhere on
deck.  He was singlehanding & still the boat looked CRAMMED!

I've made three Florida/Bahamas Gulf Stream crossings in sailboats.  One =
of
these crossings was one of my worst experiences at sea & well beyond =
what
you'd ever want to attempt in a Rhodes 22.  But, the other two were at =
the
upper limit of the Rhodes 22's performance envelope.  I have several
suggestions before you try this however:

1. If your Rhodes 22 has the bow anchor chain hawse pipe, then find a =
way to
plug
    the opening or you may take a lot of water down below.

2. Add some foam weather stripping to the underside of the pop top & rig =
up
a
    means of securing the pop top down to keep your foam "gasket" in
compression.
    A company called DeStaco makes a wide variety of dogging clamps that
could
    be used for this purpose.

3. Before you leave, make several 1/2" thick plywood cutouts in the =
shape of
your
    ports, both fixed & opening.  Glue a rubber gasket to one side of =
each
of them &
    drill matching holes thru them.  These plywood pieces will be used =
in
pairs, one
    inside & one outside & thru bolted, to plug a port which gets blown =
out
at sea.

4. No matter how you do it, the Gulf Stream crossing will be a very long
day.
    The weather will be absolutely crucial.  Consider leaving in the =
middle
of the
    night to give yourself as much daylight as possible on the other =
end.
Consider
    taking on an extra crew member for this leg of the trip to relieve =
you.
Consider
    installing a tiller pilot.  I have an AutoHelm ST1000+ & it steers =
our
Rhodes 22
    very well.

5. Get yourself a good safety harness & install solid anchor points &
jacklines
    on your Rhodes 22.

Good luck!

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

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To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:03 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bahamas



Has anybody here sailed an R22 to the Bahamas?

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>The answer is "yes" but the =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Here is&nbsp;Roger's =
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<DIV>Just a data point, for whatever it's worth.&nbsp; Last winter, I =
crewed=20
aboard a<BR>36 foot, center cockpit, ketch on a delivery cruise from =
Florida to=20
the<BR>Bahamas.&nbsp; Most sailboats we encountered in the Bahamas were =
36 feet=20
long or<BR>bigger.&nbsp; However, there was this one fellow we =
met.&nbsp; He was=20
anchored at<BR>Nassau.&nbsp; His 24 foot sloop had jerry cans &amp; =
other stuff=20
lashed everywhere on<BR>deck.&nbsp; He was singlehanding &amp; still the =
boat=20
looked CRAMMED!<BR><BR>I've made three Florida/Bahamas Gulf Stream =
crossings in=20
sailboats.&nbsp; One of<BR>these crossings was one of my worst =
experiences at=20
sea &amp; well beyond what<BR>you'd ever want to attempt in a Rhodes =
22.&nbsp;=20
But, the other two were at the<BR>upper limit of the Rhodes 22's =
performance=20
envelope.&nbsp; I have several<BR>suggestions before you try this=20
however:<BR><BR>1. If your Rhodes 22 has the bow anchor chain hawse =
pipe, then=20
find a way to<BR>plug<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the opening or you may take =
a lot of=20
water down below.<BR><BR>2. Add some foam weather stripping to the =
underside of=20
the pop top &amp; rig up<BR>a<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; means of securing =
the pop=20
top down to keep your foam "gasket" =
in<BR>compression.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A=20
company called DeStaco makes a wide variety of dogging clamps=20
that<BR>could<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be used for this purpose.<BR><BR>3. =
Before=20
you leave, make several 1/2" thick plywood cutouts in the shape=20
of<BR>your<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ports, both fixed &amp; opening.&nbsp; =
Glue a=20
rubber gasket to one side of each<BR>of them &amp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
drill=20
matching holes thru them.&nbsp; These plywood pieces will be used =
in<BR>pairs,=20
one<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; inside &amp; one outside &amp; thru bolted, to =
plug a=20
port which gets blown out<BR>at sea.<BR><BR>4. No matter how you do it, =
the Gulf=20
Stream crossing will be a very long<BR>day.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The =
weather=20
will be absolutely crucial.&nbsp; Consider leaving in the middle<BR>of=20
the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; night to give yourself as much daylight as =
possible on=20
the other end.<BR>Consider<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; taking on an extra crew =
member=20
for this leg of the trip to relieve =
you.<BR>Consider<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
installing a tiller pilot.&nbsp; I have an AutoHelm ST1000+ &amp; it =
steers=20
our<BR>Rhodes 22<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; very well.<BR><BR>5. Get yourself =
a good=20
safety harness &amp; install solid anchor points=20
&amp;<BR>jacklines<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; on your Rhodes 22.<BR><BR>Good=20
luck!<BR><BR>Roger Pihlaja<BR>S/V Dynamic =
Equilibrium<BR><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>Has anybody here sailed an R22 to the Bahamas?</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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