[Rhodes22-list] The Rhodes 22 As An "Offshore" Cruising Boat
Roger Pihlaja
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:56:08 -0400
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Richard,
As I've been saying, this type of cruising isn't for everyone. A man =
needs to know his limits. You shouldn't do something that makes you =
uncomfortable unless you are intending to test & possibly expand those =
limits. Just realize the limits most of us set for ourselves are well =
below what the Rhodes 22 is capable of handling. If probing the edge of =
the envelope doesn't interest you, then you should definitely stay back =
from the edge.
Gary & I had great time on that spinnaker run across Saginaw Bay several =
weeks ago. But, a lot of people would have been terrified to be out =
under such conditions. =20
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
----- Original Message -----=20
From: R.G. Smith=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] The Rhodes 22 As An "Offshore" Cruising =
Boat
<I see that some guy has just finished a trip, San Francisco to Hilo, =
Hawaii in August in his WW Potter 19.>
I know nothing of this trip BUT the early passages which made the =
Potters present reputation were accomplished in a very highly modified =
boat. Check out the Potter net groups and you will be surprised at just =
how different the famous boat was from what is made today. There is a =
brand new Potter in my marina. For costal sailing it's ok but, I for =
one would not trust my life to it.
<Some of us seem to set pretty low limits for ourselves.>
In my case it's a matter of the weight (my perception) of a captains =
responsibility. I generally have my wife and frequently my children =
onboard. On these occasions the cloak of "command" and ethical =
answerability hangs heavily on me and I become extraordinarily =
cautious.
A couple of weeks ago Roger posted a fascinating story describing a =
spinnaker run under very difficult conditions. It reminded me of a =
similar passage I made (20 years ago) in a 19 foot Albin one design =
swing keel boat which was my first serious monohull vessel. We flew for =
40 miles. Looking back at it and considering what might have happened I =
am positive I would not try it today. Is this the wisdom of experience =
or just fear. I don't know.
In the early days of sail/steam cross Atlantic service the Cunard Line =
instructed their captains that one thing mattered above all else. To =
deliver their vessel and passengers safely. By paying no heed to that =
rule Captain Smith cooked the White Star Line. After more then two =
decades of sailing.dodging water spouts and a few other spectaular =
eventualities I (at last) try to live up to Cunards principal.
Richard Smith
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I've been saying, this type of =
cruising isn't=20
for everyone. A man needs to know his limits. You shouldn't =
do=20
something that makes you uncomfortable unless you are intending to test =
&=20
possibly expand those limits. Just realize the limits most of us =
set for=20
ourselves are well below what the Rhodes 22 is capable of =
handling. =20
If probing the edge of the envelope doesn't interest you, then you =
should=20
definitely stay back from the edge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gary & I had great time on that =
spinnaker run=20
across Saginaw Bay several weeks ago. But, a lot of people would =
have been=20
terrified to be out under such conditions. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsailnut@asan.com href=3D"mailto:sailnut@asan.com">R.G. =
Smith</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 06, =
2002 10:37=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Rhodes22-list] =
The Rhodes=20
22 As An "Offshore" Cruising Boat</DIV>
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color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"><</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I see that some guy has just finished a =
trip,=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">San=20
Francisco</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> =
to=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hilo</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hawaii</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> in August in his WW Potter 19.<FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black">></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know =
nothing of=20
this trip BUT the early passages which made the Potters present =
reputation=20
were accomplished in a very highly modified boat. Check out the =
Potter=20
net groups and you will be surprised at just how different the famous =
boat was=20
from what is made today. There is a brand new Potter in my =
marina. =20
For costal sailing it=92s ok but, I for one would not trust my life to =
it.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"><</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Some of us seem to set pretty low limits for =
ourselves.<FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black">></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In my case =
it=92s a=20
matter of the weight (my perception) of a captains =
responsibility. I=20
generally have my wife and frequently my children onboard. On =
these=20
occasions the cloak of =93command=94 and ethical answerability hangs =
heavily on me=20
and I become extraordinarily cautious.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A couple =
of weeks=20
ago Roger posted a fascinating story describing a spinnaker run under =
very=20
difficult conditions. It reminded me of a similar passage I made =
(20=20
years ago) in a 19 foot Albin one design swing keel boat which =
was my=20
first serious monohull vessel. We flew for 40 miles. =
Looking back=20
at it and considering what might have happened I am positive I would =
not try=20
it today. Is this the wisdom of experience or just fear=85 I =
don=92t=20
know.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the =
early days of=20
sail/steam cross </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Atlantic</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> service=20
the Cunard Line instructed their captains that one thing mattered =
above all=20
else. To deliver their vessel and passengers safely. By =
paying no=20
heed to that rule Captain Smith cooked the White Star Line. =
After more=20
then two decades of sailing=85dodging water spouts and a few other =
spectaular=20
eventualities I (at last) try to live up to Cunards=20
principal.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Richard=20
Smith</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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