[Rhodes22-list] web site suggestion/offer

Ed Kroposki rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:33:51 -0400


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Re: [Rhodes22-list] web site suggestion/offerRoger:
       Is it local in this area to call a
sysmetrical spinnaker a kite?  I thought
the term was used in racing all the time?
       All the references are great.  However,=20
I still think that for Rhodies, a demonstation
by you would be best.
                           Ed K
         =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Roger Pihlaja=20
  To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 12:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] web site suggestion/offer


  I presume when you say, "Roger running with his kite", you mean =
Dynamic Equilibrium sailing downwind while flying its tri-radial =
spinnaker?  While many of you probably wish I would "go fly a kite", I =
haven't actually messed around with a paper & string kite since I was =
about 8 or 9 years old.

  In principle, I have no objection to this plan.  However, I just don't =
have time to put something like that together.  There's a lot more =
involved in producing an instructional video than simply taping a =
session on the boat.

  As an alternative, may I suggest the instructional video series from =
SAIL magazine:

      SAIL Videos
      P.O. Box 385070
      Minneapolis, MN  55438
      800-828-8130
      612-831-7272 (FAX)

  They have instructional videos on all facets of sailing from basic =
boat handling to advanced mainsail & genoa trimming, to spinnaker =
sailing, & even racing techniques.  These videos are professionally =
produced & edited.  Most are narrated by sailing legend, Tom Whidden.  =
Tom can do & explain this stuff better than I ever could, even if I live =
to be 100 years old!

  Another good source of instructional sailing videos is:

      Bennett Marine Video
      730 Washington St.
      Marina Del Rey, CA  90292
      310-821-3329

  Finally, NORTH Sails produces a series of sailing tutorial classes =
with names like:

      The NORTH U. Cruising Course
      The NORTH U. Fast Course
      The NORTH U. Smart Course

  These books are meant to be used as the textbooks for 1 -2 day =
seminars which NORTH Sails puts on periodically all over the country.  I =
recommend these courses highly.  But, even if you don't attend the =
seminars, the textbooks are highly readable with exercises for you to go =
out & try on your own boat. (Cool homework, dude!)

  In addition, NORTH Sails has produced a series of instructional videos =
called "The Shape Of Speed".  This series has videos specifically about =
trimming mainsails, another for genoas, & a 3rd for spinnakers.  The =
close-up photography & explanations are some of the best I've seen on =
these subjects.

  Any NORTH Sails loft should have these textbooks & videos for sale.  =
The address of the Detroit NORTH Sails loft is:

      NORTH Sails Detroit
      22600 Greater Mack Ave.
      St. Clair Shores, MI  48080
      810-776-1330
      810-776-2762 (FAX)
      www.northsailsdetroit.com

  Good luck!

  Roger Pihlaja
  S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Steve Alm=20
    To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 3:13 AM
    Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] web site suggestion/offer


    Wait a minute!  Roger running with his kite????  This I gotta see.
    Slim

    On 9/7/02 7:12 AM, "Ed Kroposki" <kroposki@innova.net> wrote:


      Jim:
           Can you get a video of Roger running with his kite?
             Ed K
      ----- Original Message -----=20

        From: James B. Connolly <mailto:jbconnolly@directvinternet.com>  =

        To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
        Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:05 AM
        Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] web site suggestion/offer

        MJM and other web gurus,

        Just a suggestion/question for the web site - how about video?

        Some things are easier to see and understand in motion with =
commentary. =20

        I was struck by that while watching the old Rhodes slide show =
video.  While good, and entertaining, the parts about launching and =
recovery, mast raising, etc. would be improved with video vs.. slides.

        FWIW I have a digital video camera.  The editing package that =
came with it is apparently capable of producing videos in RealPlayer =
format for either dialup or broadband connection.  It has other formats =
too, I just don't yet understand what they are.

        This is of limited usefulness right now, since I don't have my =
boat, and don't expect delivery until spring, but I would be happy to do =
something then.

        Jim Connolly






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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">Roger:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">I still think that for Rhodies, a=20
demonstation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New">by you would be best.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dcen09402@centurytel.net =
href=3D"mailto:cen09402@centurytel.net">Roger=20
  Pihlaja</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, =
2002 12:41=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
web site=20
  suggestion/offer</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I presume&nbsp;when you =
say,&nbsp;"Roger running=20
  with his kite", you mean Dynamic Equilibrium sailing downwind while =
flying its=20
  tri-radial spinnaker?&nbsp; While many of you probably wish I would =
"go fly a=20
  kite", I haven't actually messed around with a paper &amp; string kite =
since I=20
  was about 8 or 9 years old.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In principle, I have no objection to =
this=20
  plan.&nbsp; However, I just don't have time to put something like that =

  together.&nbsp; There's a lot more involved in producing an =
instructional=20
  video than simply taping a session on the boat.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As an alternative, may I suggest the=20
  instructional video series from <U>SAIL</U> magazine:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SAIL =
Videos</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; P.O. Box =
385070</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Minneapolis, =
MN&nbsp;=20
  55438</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
800-828-8130</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 612-831-7272=20
(FAX)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They have instructional videos on all =
facets of=20
  sailing from basic boat handling to advanced mainsail &amp; genoa =
trimming, to=20
  spinnaker sailing, &amp; even racing techniques.&nbsp; These videos =
are=20
  professionally produced &amp; edited.&nbsp; Most are narrated by =
sailing=20
  legend, Tom Whidden.&nbsp; Tom can do &amp; explain this stuff better =
than I=20
  ever could, even if I live to be 100 years old!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another good source of instructional =
sailing=20
  videos is:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bennett Marine=20
  Video</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 730 Washington=20
St.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Marina Del Rey, =
CA&nbsp;=20
  90292</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
310-821-3329</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finally, NORTH Sails produces a =
series of sailing=20
  tutorial classes with names like:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The NORTH U. =
Cruising=20
  Course</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The NORTH U. Fast=20
  Course</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The NORTH U. Smart =

  Course</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These books are meant to be used as =
the textbooks=20
  for 1 -2 day seminars which NORTH Sails puts on periodically all over =
the=20
  country.&nbsp; I recommend these courses highly.&nbsp; But, even if =
you don't=20
  attend the seminars, the textbooks are highly readable with exercises =
for you=20
  to go out &amp; try on your own boat. (Cool homework, =
dude!)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In addition, NORTH Sails has produced =
a series of=20
  instructional videos called "The Shape Of Speed".&nbsp; This series=20
  has&nbsp;videos specifically about trimming mainsails, another for =
genoas,=20
  &amp; a 3rd for spinnakers.&nbsp; The close-up photography &amp; =
explanations=20
  are some of the best I've seen on these subjects.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any NORTH Sails loft should have =
these textbooks=20
  &amp; videos for sale.&nbsp; The address of the Detroit NORTH =
Sails&nbsp;loft=20
  is:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; NORTH Sails=20
  Detroit</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22600 Greater Mack =

  Ave.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; St. Clair Shores, =
MI&nbsp;=20
  48080</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
810-776-1330</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 810-776-2762=20
(FAX)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.northsailsdetroit.com">www.northsailsdetroit.com</A></=
FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Roger Pihlaja</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dsalm@mn.rr.com href=3D"mailto:salm@mn.rr.com">Steve =
Alm</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, =
2002 3:13=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
web site=20
    suggestion/offer</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Wait a minute! =
&nbsp;Roger=20
    running with his kite???? &nbsp;This I gotta see.<BR>Slim<BR><BR>On =
9/7/02=20
    7:12 AM, "Ed Kroposki" &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:kroposki@innova.net">kroposki@innova.net</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:<BR><BR></FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT=20
      face=3D"Courier New">Jim:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Can you =
get a=20
      video of Roger running with his=20
      kite?<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Ed =
K<BR></FONT><FONT=20
      face=3DVerdana>----- Original Message ----- <BR></FONT>
      <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3DVerdana><B>From:</B> James B. Connolly =
&lt;<A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:jbconnolly@directvinternet.com">mailto:jbconnolly@directvi=
nternet.com</A>&gt;=20
        &nbsp;<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
        <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:05 =
AM<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
        RE: [Rhodes22-list] web site =
suggestion/offer<BR><BR></FONT><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>MJM and other =
web=20
        gurus,<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Just a =
suggestion/question=20
        for the web site - how about =
video?<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
        face=3DArial>Some things are easier to see and understand in =
motion with=20
        commentary. &nbsp;<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
        face=3DArial>I was struck by that while watching the old Rhodes =
slide show=20
        video. &nbsp;While good, and entertaining, the parts about =
launching and=20
        recovery, mast raising, etc. would be improved with video vs..=20
        slides.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT =
face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT=20
        color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>FWIW I have a =
digital video=20
        camera. &nbsp;The editing package that came with it is =
apparently=20
        capable of producing videos in RealPlayer format for either =
dialup or=20
        broadband connection. &nbsp;It has other formats too, I just =
don't yet=20
        understand what they are.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
        face=3DArial>This is of limited usefulness right now, since I =
don't have=20
        my boat, and don't expect delivery until spring, but I would be =
happy to=20
        do something then.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
        face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
        face=3DArial>Jim Connolly<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
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