[Rhodes22-list] round two, need some help
Michael Meltzer
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:13:10 -0400
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Thank you Rik, Anne, Mark, Mary and Rummy. I kind of blended it =
together, what do you think?
Todd, it was a 3 person vote, one dog hater, one trading votes on the =
town budget, the third "compromise", each meeting had over 100 person =
specking against it, few if any for it. it going to the full town board =
now, if need be 1700 signers will be need for a town vote.
MJM
An Open Letter to the Westport RTM:
=20
I'm glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter =
regulation for Compo Beach, which are just an example of the =
over-regulation we've been seeing in our town. I find it an affront to =
the Connecticut Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase "Another =
person's paranoia should not be my problem". To the best of my knowledge =
there have been no reported problems that demand a solution. A dog owner =
is morally, financially and criminally reasonable for the actions of =
their property. We understand our responsibility, act appropriately, and =
would never expose an out of control animal to the public.=20
=20
I have three daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite winter activity =
is going to Compo Beach with our dog Rooney. After a long winter week, =
we go with my wife's complete blessing and relief. We run around, walk =
the dog, dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the water, and =
collect rocks and shells. We are a family. The girls love the =
playground. Because I am a reasonable parent, I am busily keeping a =
watch on all. Many other children come to pet and meet our dog Rooney. =
Like many other families, we have done this for years. So what are those =
new rules about? Am I going to be forced to break the law by having =
Rooney with me or to break the law by not supervising my children? Or =
better yet maybe I should leave the kids at the house while I take =
Rooney to the beach? How much family time do any of us have?=20
=20
I am a regular guy, humble, hard-working with the Metro North monthly =
ticket, up early and home late. I am not a member of PETA, or an =
activist at the town meetings or ones of these people think dogs are =
people. I never was disappointed in my Westport until now. What some =
might view as a compromise is to my family a loss of one of the few town =
resources we can use. Never before have I seen an issue forced through =
by the few wheeling power in the face of strong opposition. =20
=20
Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, it is truly a =
non-issue. The only problem is in the minds of bored people with not =
enough to do and the effects of their tyranny.
=20
=20
Sincerely,
Michael Meltzer
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rik Sandberg=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help
Mark,
That was my "best guess" at what Michael was trying to say. Didn't =
know for sure what it meant either. Actually didn't mean to send that =
back to the list, but forgot to change the address before pushing the =
send button. Have since reworded that and sent it again, back channel.
Rik
At 09:51 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Last line - not sure what "and the effects of their itinerery." =
means. Maybe you could make that a bit more clear.
=20
Mark Kaynor=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ellner=20
To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:41 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help
Looks good............maryAt 08:00 AM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Michael,
Second line "ad fount" ????
last word, last paragraph, "ternary"
Give me a hint on these, please.
I am assuming that your Rooney must not be licensed in the town =
of Westport. So now you can't legally bring the dog to the beach at =
all????
Made changes right in the letter. Should have a greeting, dear =
(whoever) and at the end a sincerely, to close. You are sincere, aren't =
you???? :-)
Rik
At 02:10 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
I got "foot-in-mouth" at the dog park over the weekend, and =
was asked to write a=20
letter to the local paper, http://www.doggpac.org/ for the =
background.=20
Ok. I figured I would try to run it by the list first, see how =
it sell and look for any ideas=20
how to punch it up, make it more powerful, persuasive, improve =
it or tone it down,=20
over the top is nominal for the town :-) Not pound and would =
welcome any additions or advice.=20
beside I rather start with a 100 people I know before 25,000 =
in town :-)=20
=20
An Open Letter to the <?xml:namespace prefix =3D st1 ns =3D =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Westport RTM
<?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
I'm glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the =
latest winter regulation for Compo Beach. This is just another example =
of the overregulation we've been seeing in your town. I find it ad fount =
to the Connecticut Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase "Another =
person's paranoia should not be my problem". To the best of my knowlege =
there have been no reported problems that demand a solution.=20
I have three Daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite =
winter activity is going to Compo Beach with our dog, I might add, with =
my wife's blessing, after a long winter week. We run around, walk the =
dog, dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the water, collect =
rocks and shells and generally are a family. The girls love the =
playground. I, being a reasonable parent, keep a watch on them all. =
Dozens of times a day little ones come to pet and meet Rooney, our dog. =
We've done this for years, as have other parents, and there has never =
been a problem. So what are these new rules about? Am I going to be =
forced to break the law by having Rooney with me or to break the law by =
not supervising the children. Or better yet maybe I should leave the =
kids at the house while I take the Rooney to the beach? How much family =
time do any of us have?=20
I am a normal guy, humble, hard working with the Metro North =
monthly ticket, up early and home late. I am not a member of PETA, or an =
activist at the town meetings. Nor, am I one of these folks that think =
dogs are people. I have never been disappointed in Westport until now. =
Never before have I seen an issue forced through by the few wielding =
power in the face of such strong opposition. =20
Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, this =
is truly a non-issue. Only problem is in the minds of bored people with =
not enough to do and the effects of their itinerary.
Michael Meltzer=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you Rik, Anne, Mark, Mary and =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Todd, it was a 3 person vote, one =
dog hater,=20
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</SPAN>I=92m glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter =
regulation=20
for <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Compo</st1:PlaceName>=20
<st1:PlaceType>Beach</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, which are just an =
example of=20
the over-regulation we=92ve been seeing in our town. I find it an =
affront to the=20
Connecticut Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase =93Another =
person=92s paranoia=20
should not be my problem=94. To the best of my knowledge there have been =
no=20
reported problems that demand a solution. A dog owner is morally, =
financially=20
and criminally reasonable for the actions of their property. We =
understand our=20
responsibility, act appropriately, and would never expose an out of =
control=20
animal to the public. </P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in">I =
have three=20
daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite winter activity is going to=20
<st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Compo</st1:PlaceName>=20
<st1:PlaceType>Beach</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> with our dog Rooney. =
After a=20
long winter week, we go with my wife's complete blessing and relief. We =
run=20
around, walk the dog, dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the =
water,=20
and collect rocks and shells. We are a family. The girls love the =
playground.=20
Because I am a reasonable parent, I am busily keeping a watch on all. =
Many other=20
children come to pet and meet our dog Rooney. Like many other families, =
we have=20
done this for years. So what are those new rules about? Am I going to be =
forced=20
to break the law by having Rooney with me or to break the law by not =
supervising=20
my children? Or better yet maybe I should leave the kids at the house =
while I=20
take Rooney to the beach? How much family time do any of us have? </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 0.5in">I =
am a=20
regular guy, humble, hard-working with the Metro North monthly ticket, =
up early=20
and home late. I am not a member of PETA, or an activist at the town =
meetings or=20
ones of these people think dogs are people. I never was disappointed in =
my=20
<st1:City><st1:place>Westport</st1:place></st1:City> until now. What =
some might=20
view as a compromise is to my family a loss of one of the few town =
resources we=20
can use. Never before have I seen an issue forced through by the few =
wheeling=20
power in the face of strong opposition.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
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0.5in">Scrap the new=20
rules. There is no problem at =
<st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Compo</st1:PlaceName>=20
<st1:PlaceType>Beach</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, it is truly a =
non-issue. The=20
only problem is in the minds of bored people with not enough to do and =
the=20
effects of their tyranny.</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Sincerely,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Michael =
Meltzer</P></SPAN></DIV>
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<A title=3Dracerrik@rea-alp.com =
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2002 10:19=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] =
need some=20
help</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark,<BR><BR>That =
was my "best=20
guess" at what Michael was trying to say. Didn't know for sure what it =
meant=20
either. Actually didn't mean to send that back to the list, but forgot =
to=20
change the address before pushing the send button. Have since reworded =
that=20
and sent it again, back channel.<BR><BR>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 09:51 AM =
9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>Last line=20
- not sure what "and the effects of their itinerery." means. Maybe =
you could=20
make that a bit more clear.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>Mark=20
Kaynor</FONT>=20
<DL>
<DD>----- Original Message -----=20
<DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:ellner@pressenter.com">ellner</A>=20
<DD>To:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org">rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org</A>=
=20
<DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:41 AM=20
<DD>Subject:</B> Re: [Rhodes22-list] need some help<BR><BR>
<DD>Looks good............maryAt 08:00 AM 9/11/2002 -0500, you =
wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite">
<DD>Michael,<BR><BR>
<DD>Second line "ad fount" ????<BR><BR>
<DD>last word, last paragraph, "ternary"<BR><BR>
<DD>Give me a hint on these, please.<BR><BR>
<DD>I am assuming that your Rooney must not be licensed in the =
town of=20
Westport. So now you can't legally bring the dog to the beach at =
all????<BR><BR>
<DD>Made changes right in the letter. Should have a greeting, =
dear=20
(whoever) and at the end a sincerely, to close. You are sincere, =
aren't=20
you???? :-)<BR><BR>
<DD>Rik<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DD>At 02:10 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite=3D"" type=3D"cite"><FONT =
face=3Darial size=3D2>
<DD>I got "foot-in-mouth" at the dog park over the weekend, =
and was=20
asked to write a</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>letter to the local paper, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.doggpac.org/">http://www.doggpac.org/</A> =
for the=20
background.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>Ok. I figured I would try to run it by the list first, see =
how it=20
sell and look for any ideas</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2> =
<DD>how to punch it up, make it more powerful, persuasive, =
improve it=20
or tone it down,</FONT><FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>=20
<DD>over the top is nominal for the town :-) Not pound and =
would=20
welcome any additions or advice.</FONT><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>=20
<DD>beside I rather start with a 100 people I know before =
25,000 in=20
town :-)</FONT>=20
<DD>=20
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD>An Open Letter to the <?xml:namespace prefix =3D st1 ns =
=3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Westport =
RTM<BR><BR>
<DD><?xml:namespace prefix =3D o ns =3D=20
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><BR><BR>
=
<DD> I=92m=20
glad to hear the RTM will be reviewing the latest winter =
regulation=20
for Compo Beach. This is just another example of the =
overregulation=20
we=92ve been seeing in your town. I find it ad fount to the =
Connecticut=20
Yankee spirit and to butcher a paraphrase =93Another =
person=92s paranoia=20
should not be my problem=94. To the best of my knowlege there =
have been=20
no reported problems that demand a solution. <BR><BR>
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD>I have three Daughters aged 7, 5 and 1, and our favorite =
winter=20
activity is going to Compo Beach with our dog, I might add, =
with my=20
wife=92s blessing, after a long winter week. We run around, =
walk the=20
dog, dig the sand, climb the jetties, play fetch in the water, =
collect=20
rocks and shells and generally are a family. The girls love =
the=20
playground. I, being a reasonable parent, keep a watch on them =
all.=20
Dozens of times a day little ones come to pet and meet Rooney, =
our=20
dog. We=92ve done this for years, as have other parents, and =
there has=20
never been a problem. So what are these new rules about? Am I =
going to=20
be forced to break the law by having Rooney with me or to =
break the=20
law by not supervising the children. Or better yet maybe I =
should=20
leave the kids at the house while I take the Rooney to the =
beach? How=20
much family time do any of us have? <BR><BR>
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD>I am a normal guy, humble, hard working with the Metro =
North=20
monthly ticket, up early and home late. I am not a member of =
PETA, or=20
an activist at the town meetings. Nor, am I one of these folks =
that=20
think dogs are people. I have never been disappointed in =
Westport=20
until now. Never before have I seen an issue forced through by =
the few=20
wielding power in the face of such strong opposition. =
<BR><BR>
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD>Scrap the new rules. There is no problem at Compo Beach, =
this is=20
truly a non-issue. Only problem is in the minds of bored =
people with=20
not enough to do and the effects of their itinerary.<BR><BR>
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD><BR><BR>
<DD> <FONT face=3Darial size=3D2>Michael Meltzer</FONT>=20
<DD>=20
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