[Rhodes22-list] To Bob Weber: What Happened In The Race
Kip Hansen
rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:32:02 -0400
Bob,
Hey, great, Jonathan and I have a Force 5 that we still sail on the Hudson
River...when we need a refresher on sail shape for the Rhodes, we take the Force
Five out for a few hours. Really helps as the results of all adjustments are so
"close up and personal".
Kip Hansen
Bob Weber wrote:
> Roger, It was an olympic type course. Triangluar. Due to the slow
> conditions it was shortened mid race to eliminate the final windward Leeward
> leg. I have an 84 hull with standard rig. a 155 genny. an old main that is
> as easy to shape as whores' drawers. The traveller is the pole between the
> spreaders with badly worn jam cleats(didnt stan say he is in the spare parts
> business?). The thing I dont like about the traveller is having to adjust
> both sides. A while back I heard mention of a single cleat system for the
> traveller. I was not sure of the legallity of the starboard tack so I didnt
> do it. We were both on a port tack, pinching to the mark, and he was
> overtaking on the port side. I would have actually put myself off course by
> tacking and thought this might be a foul. It bought back the days of racing
> in a Force 5. That boat had an infinatly adjustable sail shape and handled
> as good as the rhodes. I have a genoa track that starts about the doghouse
> and continues aft to the transom. Im still fiddling with the fairlead
> visually noting the shape change. Some lititurature on this adjustment
> would be a help. I wont be able to get my revenge until October. Every
> weekend in Sept is already booked. O'well there is always the spring
> series. Thanks for your interest and advise.
> Bob Weber
>
> >From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402@centurytel.net>
> >Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
> >To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] To Bob Weber: What Happened In The Race
> >Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:44:32 -0400
> >
> >Bob,
> >
> >4th place overall in a 9 boat field on your first time out isn't so bad.
> >Don't be so hard on yourself. That guy Danielson in his Catalina 25 seems
> >to be really hot, 1st place in the first two races in the Fall series.
> >Although, he didn't do so well in the Spring series. Congratulations on
> >taking the start.
> >
> >OK, I see it was a really light air race, 0 - 5 knots. What kind of course
> >is the "Short Course". 5 nm of what? Windward - leeward probably, but how
> >many legs?
> >
> >Tell me about your boat. What year is it? Is your mainsail traveller the
> >old cable style or the newer style with the rod on the backstays? Do you
> >have the genoa tracks for adjusting the lead position? What condition are
> >your bottom, centerboard, & rudder blade in?
> >
> >Hey, tacking in front of people is all part of sailboat racing. Any move
> >which you can successfully execute, is not forbidden under the rules, & is
> >to your advantage is, by definition: "A tactically smart move." If you
> >don't make it; then, you have, by definition: "Made a tactical mistake."
> >Your opponents will thank you. With only 100 feet to go to the 1st
> >windward
> >mark, if you'd starboard tacked that guy, you probably would have stopped
> >him dead in the water, maybe even have made it impossible for him to fetch
> >the mark! Gosh, your opponent's boat dead in the water, blocking the rest
> >of the fleet only 3 - 4 boat lengths from the windward mark with you in
> >clear air in front - what fun! Bet he'd never try something like that on
> >you again. This is called: "Covering your opponent." In general, on the
> >windward leg, you want to try to stay between your opponent & the next mark
> >and give him the dirtiest air you possibly can.
> >
> >Without a spinnaker, life on the downwind legs is going to be tough for
> >you.
> >But, there are still some things you can do. The next time a similar sized
> >boat passes you on the downwind leg, park right on that guy's windward hip.
> >Use your masthead wind indicator to aim your wind shadow right at his rig.
> >Your rig's wind shadow extends about 10 boat lengths out, but the closer
> >the
> >better as far the effectiveness goes. You'll know your aim is good when
> >you
> >see his spinnaker collapse & mainsail start slatting. Of course, he
> >probably going to start a gibing duel to try & scrape you off his transom.
> >But, with your standard rig, if you can't gibe faster than a spinnaker
> >rigged boat, then you need sail handling practice. With his rig crippled
> >by
> >your wind shadow, you should be able to easily keep up. But, don't try to
> >pass him, just sit there slowing him down just enough to keep up until you
> >get about 4 boat lengths from the leeward mark. When it's time for the
> >kill, move in as close as you dare, totally smother his rig with your wind
> >shadow, & he'll just about stop dead in the water. With any luck, he'll
> >get
> >a spinnaker wrap from your dirty air or make some other mistake. While
> >he's
> >dead in the water, pass him on the inside, & round the leeward mark in
> >front!
> >
> >Roger Pihlaja
> >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811@hotmail.com>
> >To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] To Bob Weber: What Happened In The Race
> >
> >
> > > Roger, The rusults can be seen at http://www.geocities.com/boulderyc/ I
> >was
> > > assigned a 296 - asked for a 274 ???. Came in forth overall and forth
> > > corrected. I suspect some handicap funny business especially by the 2nd
> > > place guy who flew his spinnaker. I was first off the start and lead
> >till
> > > about 100' shy of the first mark. I was overtaken on the port on a port
> > > tack. I considered tacking infront of him but didnt want to peeve
> >anyone
> > > one my first race - also it would only have delayed my fate. My
> >downwind
> > > preformance was abismal. Watched 2 other boats blanket than pass me.
> >My
> > > desire for a spinnaker has growen considerably (even more so after
> >seeing
> > > the bueatiful pictures of Raven). I got good information of Poling
> > > proceedures and that will be my short-term stop gap. I gained gound on
> >the
> > > leaders on the next windward leg but not enough. It was fun. I havent
> > > raced in 17 years and almost forgot that sailing can be exciting and
> >hard
> > > work. While I am thinking about it I need a better traveller
> >arrangement -
> > > hopefully someone at K-Lake has worked out a better solution. Thanks
> >for
> > > asking I think I am hooked again. Hold on the the wallet.
> > > Bob Weber
> > > SV Ruba
> > >
> > > >From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402@centurytel.net>
> > > >Reply-To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
> > > >To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] To Bob Weber: What Happened In The Race
> > > >Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:21:17 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Dear Bob,
> > > >
> > > >So what PHRF rating did the race committee assign to your Rhodes 22?
> >How
> > > >did you do in the weekend races? We need details man! Inquiring minds
> > > >want to know!
> > > >
> > > >Roger Pihlaja
> > > >S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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