[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
Bill Berner
dblbld@attglobal.net
Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:01:28 -0400
Roger -
A cruising cat would certainly fix the problem of heeling with the
Admiral, and I'd love the speed as well.
However, it would create a new much more significant problem. If I
spent the kind of money that I think would be req'd, it wouldn't matter
how little the boat heeled because I would be single.
Thanks
BB
Bill Berner
191 South Broadway
Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
v 914 478 2896
f 914 478 3856
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 8:35 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
Bill,
I really enjoyed your story. The trouble with using someone else's boat
whether you are chartering or just borrowing, it that if something
doesn't
work properly, it can take forever to figure out what's wrong. Then,
just
like in your story, if you can't get repair parts in some remote area,
you
are just stuck. Did the charter owner ever get back on you re the fire
damage?
I know what you mean re the royal PITA of having to shift stuff around
in
the R-22's cabin every time you want to get into a locker or make up the
bunk. All the frogging around probably adds 30 - 45 minutes to the
routine
at the beginning & end of every day. When my wife is on board, we all
just
put up with it. However, when I wilderness cruise with my sons, we have
pretty much stopped overnighting at marinas or at anchor. As much as
possible, we use our Rhodes 22 to get to some remote spot & then beach
camp.
We will still stay on the boat if there is no good place to camp ashore
& we
use the boat as a varmint-proof place to store our food & carry potable
water. But, we all enjoy backpacking & there is so much more room
ashore.
If the "Admiral" is frightened of heeling, then you might consider a
cruising catamaran instead of a bigger monohull. The last couple of
years,
I've been sailing quite a bit on a friend's 42' long custom catamaran
out on
Lake Huron. You might recall this was the boat that I helped initially
inspect at the Edison Yacht Club on the Detroit River. Over the next
year,
I helped him repair & then launch the boat. The last two seasons, the
boat
has been at Jerry's Marina on Tawas Bay. Next year, my friend has
leased a
slip as well as a winter storage deal over at Pentwater on Lake
Michigan.
Sometime in the next couple of weeks, I'll probably help him sail it
about
300 nm around the "Tip Of The Mitt" to its new home, a 3-4 day trip.
One of
the things that impresses me every time we go out on the catamaran is
the
effortless manner in which it can achieve 8-10 knots. The thing just
sails
along, nearly level, no muss, no fuss. You look at the knotmeter, see
10
knots, & think, "No way!" Then you look behind at the twin roostertails
coming off the hulls, & think, "Wow!" The long narrow hulls slice thru
waves much better than a similar sized monohull & you get much less of
the
pitching & rolling we are all so familiar with. When running with a
following or stern quartering sea, the boat is moving at or sometimes
even
faster than the waves. So, you don't get as much of that odd
"corkscrewing"
motion that causes so many people to get seasick. It tacks thru 90 deg
&
goes to weather as well as any similar sized cruising boat. But, you do
need good tacking technique, especially in light air or the boat can end
up
in irons. Of course, once the point of sail moves more downwind than a
beam
reach, the boat just screams! Gibing downwind is really fun. With the
daggerboards raised, the draft is only about 3'. The draft is about 8'
with
the boards down. I don't know how well it would do against a lobster
pot.
There are no apertures or shafts to snag a line on. The outboards &
daggerboards can be raised. Snagging one of the twin rudder blades
might be
a problem. With twin 10 hp outboard engines, set well apart in the
hulls,
the boat can be spun around in nearly her own length. But, with a 23'
beam,
I will admit that docking is a little intimidating - sort of like
parking
your deck. In most marinas on the Great Lakes, the only place you can
get a
"slip" is on the end of the pier or up against a wharf. We anchor out a
lot
more with the catamaran than you would with a similar sized monohull.
The
other nice thing about the lack of heeling, pitching, & rolling is the
sort
of galley & dining room table that becomes possible. The stove & oven
don't
need any sort of gimbals & cooking underway is much safer. The entire
bridgedeck between the hulls has the galley & table. It's open & airy
with
large fixed & opening ports. It becomes the focus of life aboard during
the
day. Privacy is also much better than in a monohull. You & the Admiral
could have your cabin in one hull & your children could be in the other
hull. It's all extremely civilized. You & the Admiral should check out
a
cruising cat at a boat show. Try to get a test sail. I'll bet the
Admiral
will be hooked.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Berner" <dblbld@attglobal.net>
To: "'Ed Kroposki'" <kroposki@innova.net>; "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
<rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
> Every time we cruise as a family (Me, Admiral, 14 yr. old girl, 11 yr.
> old boy), which we are doing more and more of, we finish the cruise
> feeling that we need something larger.
>
> I love the boat, but even when I was alone on it for the 2 days and
> nights, I got tired of making up the setee into a bed each night and
> converting it again in the morning. I would also really like to have
> standing headroom throughout the cabin.
>
> Looking in the 30-32' range. Probably the obvious choice (Catalina)
or
> perhaps O'Day. Possibly a Nonnsuch if I could find a great deal.
> Definitely want a early to mid 80's family cruiser rather than racer
> cruiser. The Admiral is white knuckled about heeling.
>
> Bill Berner
> 191 South Broadway
> Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
>
> v 914 478 2896
> f 914 478 3856
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ed Kroposki
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 11:42 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 for sale
>
> Bill:
> Why? 4 sale?
> Ed K
>
>
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