[Rhodes22-list] Stove fuel consideration

[James B. Connolly]

I second Roger's advice.  We had one of those round stainless BBQ grills for
the boat that uses the Coleman LPG cylinders.  The valve on the cylinder can
corrode and stick open, so that it will leak if you remove it.  This
happened to us more than once, and we had to dispose of nearly full leaking
cylinders. Not easy to do.

Jim Connolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:54 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stove fuel consideration
>
>
> Todd,
>
> Enclosed are links to 3 annotated pictures of the galley setup &
> LPG storage
> on board Dynamic Equilibrium.  The stove is a Kenyon 2 burner,
> built-in LPG
> unit.  Note the stainless steel heat shields above & below the stove.
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/Galley-3.jpg
> http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/Galley-4.jpg
> http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/Propane-1.jpg
>
> In the 3rd picture, the LPG tank is a 6 lb refillable cylinder
> mounted in a
> custom made socket on the cockpit sole.  Note that it is set out in the
> cockpit under the port side seat.  The 2-stage regulator is not
> illustrated,
> but it is permanently mounted on the underside of the port side cockpit
> coaming compartment.  Note that there is a 1/4 turn shutoff valve right
> nearby the cylinder as well as the LPG cylinder's built-in valve.
>  The stove
> also has a built-in gas shutoff valve in addition to the individual burner
> control valves.  The 1/4 turn shutoff valve at the LPG cylinder is always
> kept closed unless the stove is actually being used.  It is the emergency
> valve that would be used to quickly shut off the LP gas in the event of a
> fire.   The LPG tubing was all custom cut to length & the fittings were
> machine swaged at my local LPG supplier.  There are an absolute minimum of
> fittings in the entire system which might potentially leak.  The hose is
> well supported & chafe protected all along its length.
>
> I presume you are proposing to use something like a Coleman LPG camping
> stove or a butane canister stove.  If you plan to use the stove in cool
> temperatures, say less than 50 deg F, then the butane stove will be nearly
> useless.  Butane has insufficient vapor pressure in cool
> temperatures to be
> a reliable stove fuel.  I have a lot of experience with the
> disposable 14 oz
> LPG cylinders from my Boy Scout troop.  On our camping trips, my Boy Scout
> troop uses nothing but the Coleman LPG stoves & lanterns.  We
> routinely have
> as many as 3 of each going at the same time in various parts of our
> campsite.  My advise is: Don't even think about carrying these disposable
> LPG cylinders in any confined area aboard your boat.  They are more
> dangerous than gasoline!  The Schrader valves on the disposable cylinders
> frequently leak.  On board a boat, they could be a disaster waiting to
> happen.
>
> An LPG stove installation is NOT the appropriate place to cheap
> out & try to
> get by with camping equipment.  Proceed with your plan at your own risk!
>
> My installation illustrates how a chemical engineer, with a lot of
> experience in the safe handling of flammable pressurized gases, goes about
> installing an LPG stove on a Rhodes 22.  If you have any specific
> questions
> re LPG stove installations, then ask away & I'll try to help.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80@mail.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:42 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stove fuel consideration
>
>
> > I will be making an entirely new galley.  I was going to replace the old
> two burner stove with the pump, with a new two burner camp stove which I
> will modify to work in the boat.  This stove uses small propane
> tanks.  Does
> anyone know of any reasons for not having propane on board; or any special
> considerations?  I will not have propane aboard being stored, just carried
> on when I plan long daysails or overnighters.
> >
> > Any comments or help will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Todd
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