[Rhodes22-list] disappointed on discussion of sails

Rik Sandberg sanderico at earthlink.net
Fri Apr 18 08:54:03 EDT 2003 

Ed, Julie, et al,

I wonder which is quicker, taking 5 seconds to scan an email or a minute to 
compose and type a new subject line every time a discussion wanders a little 
bit.. You have all heard the old saying, "you can't judge a book by it's 
cover". Well this is why it's an old saying. I never delete anything, until I 
have looked at it, except for maybe some spam stuff.

If it takes that long to check your email, maybe you need a better email 
program. :-) I have tried those internet based deals like hotmail and the 
earthlink email and I won't use 'em. Too slow.

Rik


On Friday 18 April 2003 07:05 am, you wrote:
> I just deleted all of the discussion on the Yacht Club because I figured it
> wasn't a discussion I needed to follow after reading the first one. I will
> echo Ed's comments, please change the subject line as the conversation
> changes.
> Thank you,
> Julie Thorndycraft
> Rhodes Owner on 4/29/03
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:32 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] disappointed on discussion of sails
>
> > Wally,
> > I was disappointed in the discussion of 175 vs ups vs 125, etc.,
> > because it was all under the subject Yacht Club.  Now if someone want to
> > review the discussion they have to look at Yacht Club instead of
> > sailboat terminology 'Sails'.
> > Snap. Snap.
> >                  Ed k
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wally Buck [mailto:tnrhodey at hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:49 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> >
> > Rummy,
> >
> > I am considering a new genny but I wasn't sure if I would be happy with
> > the
> > 175 except in really light winds. I am waiting for feedback on the UPS
> > sail
> > to see how people compare it to the 175.  I know you love your 175. At
> > what
> > wind speed (when solo) do you need to start furling the 175 to keep the
> > boat
> > from excessive heel and loss of speed?
> >
> > One nice thing about the 125 is it fits perfectly inside the upper
> > shroud
> > and stops just short of the spreader. I can point much higher with this
> > sail
> > than my old 150 furled. I would think the difference would be even more
> > noticeable with the 175.
> >
> > My Harken Furler does allow much better sail shape than the GB furler.
> > Plus
> > sail changes are pretty easy. I am not in a rush but at some point I
> > would
> > like to add a second headsail. I just need to figure out which one would
> > be
> > the most versatile.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: johntonjes at earthlink.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:59:31 -0400
> > >
> > >Wally,
> > >Really throw the ratings for a loop and get a 175 genoa. :)
> > >
> > >Rummy
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Date: 4/17/2003 2:32:11 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > I hear you on the vang. It will help a lot going upwind. With any
> >
> > luck I
> >
> > >can
> > >
> > > > convert the one from my Bantam to the R22. I really don't need
> >
> > anything
> >
> > > > fancy. If I can convince a friend to crew I will fly spinnaker down
> > >
> > >wind.
> > >My
> > >
> > > > boat is not rigged for racing. I have IMF and a 125 jib. I have an
> >
> > older
> >
> > >150
> > >
> > > > but the 125 is one year old and is much faster than the 18 year old
> >
> > 150.
> >
> > >One
> > >
> > > > thing that will help me is that river racing requires a lot of
> >
> > tacking.
> >
> > >Most
> > >
> > > > of the bigger boats race short handed so I am hoping I can use that
> >
> > to
> >
> > >my
> > >
> > > > advantage.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And yes the fee includes a bunch of parties and dinners. In fact
> >
> > they
> >
> > >spend
> > >
> > > > everything on parties and cheap trophies. They have a Christmas
> >
> > light
> >
> > >parade
> > >
> > > > and dinner party that is supposed to be a bunch of fun. The Club
> >
> > house
> >
> > >is
> > >a
> > >
> > > > house right next to the marina. There is usually people in hanging
> >
> > out
> >
> > > > watching the game or enjoying a drink (BYOB) on the weekend. I
> >
> > really
> >
> > >wasn't
> > >
> > > > interested in joining but they seemed like such a nice group of
> >
> > folks
> >
> > >that I
> > >
> > > > am now looking forward to it.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the 325 PHRF, I am not sure if I can sell them on that.
> >
> > There
> >
> > >are
> > >
> > > > about four or five boats in the 22 - 25 range that race. There are
> >
> > two
> >
> > > > Compaq 23s and an Oday 222 that race. In spite of my non racing rig
> >
> > pass
> >
> > > > them all of the time. It will be hard to get anything slower than
> >
> > they
> >
> > >get.
> > >
> > > > I have passed the Catalina 25 heading upwind a couple of times. I
> >
> > will
> >
> > >let
> > >
> > > > you know what they stick me with.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > > > >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:33:15 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >Wally, You do need a boom vang for sail shape for anything from a
> >
> > beam
> >
> > > > >reach on down.  I have a standard main and it gets a lot of twist
> >
> > on
> >
> > > > >anything more than a close reach.  Congrats on the Yaaaaaaaaaaaacht
> > >
> > >Club
> > >!
> > >
> > > > >Hopefully the fee includes a few parties.   My entry fee was 30$
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > >includes about 8 parties.  We are not as exclusive in MO.  Also you
> > >
> > >will
> > >
> > > > >want a wisker pole for the downwind leg.  Good luck - Make us proud
> >
> > -
> >
> > >don't
> > >
> > > > >lower our PHRF though.  Got a 325 this year.  I can run the course
> >
> > the
> >
> > >next
> > >
> > > > >day and still have a shot at winning :)
> > > > >
> > > > >Bob Weber
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
> > > > >>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Yacht Club
> > > > >>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:58:50 -0400
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has been a little more than a year since I slipped my R22 at
> >
> > Blue
> >
> > > > >>Springs Marina. Several of the Yacht Club members have asked me to
> > >
> > >join
> > >
> > > > >>the yacht club but I never got around to it. Well last weekend
> >
> > they
> >
> > >had
> > >a
> > >
> > > > >>party that I attended. I finally decided to join Horizon Yacht
> >
> > Club.
> >
> > >It
> > >is
> > >
> > > > >>very swanky, expensive, and quite exclusive (not really it is in
> >
> > TN!)
> >
> > >and
> > >
> > > > >>I needed to find a sponsor. After much controversy I was voted in.
> >
> > I
> >
> > >only
> > >
> > > > >>need to come up with the steep yearly dues. After writing  the
> >
> > Purser
> >
> > >a
> > >
> > > > >>check for $150 it was official.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Link to Blue Springs -
> > > > >>http://www.bluespringsmarina.com/
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I was quite proud to learn that my boat is considered to be one of
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > >>most sailed boats in the marina. They race the first Saturday of
> >
> > every
> >
> > > > >>month and have regattas with other clubs in the area. There are
> > >
> > >several
> > >
> > > > >>that are serious (J24 & J80) but most are just looking for fun.
> >
> > Most
> >
> > >of
> > >
> > > > >>the boats are in the 27 to 35 foot range and usually don't have a
> >
> > full
> >
> > > > >>crew. It is usally about 10 boats total, not a big group.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>So I need to get a boom vang to improve sail shape. I am thinking
> >
> > of
> >
> > >using
> > >
> > > > >>the same bail that was provided by GB for mast hoist. I can attach
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > >>bail at the bottom of the mast. I am going to experiment using the
> > >
> > >vang
> > >I
> > >
> > > > >>made for my Bantam.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Wally
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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