[Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole

Tue Apr 29 01:32:53 EDT 2003

Bob,
Let me chime in with my 2 cents. Good advice from Roger and Rummy.  I only 
have a clip in one end of my whisker pole, which attaches to the padeye 
mounted on the mast.  I think mine is mounted lower than Roger's, from what 
I could tell in the pictures, because I don't have a spinnaker, just a 
crummy little 175 genoa...  I would guess mine is mounted about 18 inches 
from the base of the mast, but that is just a guess.  Tried to mount it so 
the pole would be level.  The other end has a spike which goes through the 
sail (what is that, the clew?) very easily.  I think the pole was going 
between the upper shroud and aft lower shroud, if I remember correctly, but 
it could have been the forward lower shroud. When you try it, the correct 
place will be obvious.

As for the preventer, that was actually for the mainsail to prevent an 
accidental jibe caused by a windshift or rum or powerboat with sunbathers or 
short attention span or whatever.  Line went from back of the boom forward 
through the cleat and then back to the cockpit through another cleat.

Hope that helps...
Bob K

>From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: johntonjes at earthlink.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Lloyd don't duck for cover yet
>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:07:09 -0400
>
>Bob,
>
>Not dumb questions, just a lot of answers depending who you ask. On my boat
>and one other that I am aware of, we have a padeye mounted on the front of
>the mast. We clip onto this and use the spike end on the sail. I believe
>the pole is positioned between the forward and the outer stay. (If I
>remember correctly) The last time I was out with Yankee Clipper, he rigged
>a preventer on the genoa which really made the handling while wing on wing
>much easier. I would recommend a preventer to anyone, used in this manner.
>Hope this helps.
>I know that some people have mounted an adjustable track on the front of
>the mast so they can raise or lower the padeye as required. My personal
>preference was to mount it slightly above level with the sail.
>
>Rummy
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Robert Dilk <Robert.Dilk at TRW.COM>
> > To: <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>; <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: 4/28/2003 8:00:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Lloyd don't duck for cover yet
> >
> > Dumb question time.
> > To pole out the Genoa, do you clip the out board end onto the sheet or
>the =
> > sail?
> > Were do you place the pole? In front of the shrouds, between the 
>shrouds?
> > How high on the mast is the ring for the inboard end of the pole?
> >
> >
> > thanks much.
> >
> > Bob
> > S/V Knot Necessary
> >
> > >>> r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com 04/27/03 12:29PM >>>
> > The best thing about the downwind sail home was that, despite Rummy's=20
> > objections, I rigged a preventer and then used the new whisker pole for 
>=
> > the=20
> > genoa and pulled up the CB and it was a great, relaxing wing-on-wing =
> > sail=20
> > all the way back (about 8-10 miles).  Hit some good speeds, but am a =
> > little=20
> > foggy on exactly what they were...
> > Bob K
> > 'Yankee Clipper'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> > >Reply-To: johntonjes at earthlink.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list=20
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list"=20
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Lloyd don't duck for cover yet
> > >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:00:32 -0400
> > >
> > >Lloyd,
> > >You know nothing on this list ever gets personal. Captain Bob and I 
>were
> > >already three sheets to the wind when we ran across Ed and Admiral =
> > heading
> > >for their birth at the marina. We simply stopped to use the facilities 
>=
> > and
> > >shoot the breeze and went about our way. It was a great day, but the =
> > winds
> > >were sporadic and we were grateful to have wind behind us all the way =
> > home
> > >listening to a little Jimmy to make the mood. We arrived back at Bob's
> > >cottage  just as the sun set and the temps cooled down. Looking forward 
>=
> > to
> > >another great day tomorrow.
> > >
> > >Rummy
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Date: 4/26/2003 5:39:33 PM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lloyd don't duck for cover yet
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd,
> > > > 	Rummy and shipmate just left me at the dock.  You have not made
> > > > any enemies here.  Just the south end of the lake sniping at the 
>north
> > > > end.  Now if we could get some other rhodies on the lake we would be
> > > > doing something.
> > > > 		Ed K
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org=20
> > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of lcrowther
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Leaving the dock under sail
> > > >
> > > > This is an unusual exchange of messages that seems to be becoming a
> > > > little
> > > > personal so I thought I would muddy the waters a little bit more.
> > > >
> > > > Rummy - How do you know Ed K. was sitting on the dock and not 
>sailing
> > > > somewhere in the vicinity?
> > > >
> > > > Ed - Did you ever hear the saying 'different strokes for different
> > > > folks'?
> > > > What did you hope to prove other than one definition of gratuitous ?
> > > >
> > > > There, now I've made two enemies for life!
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd
> > > > s/v Uhuru II
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:39 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Leaving the dock under sail
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ed,
> > > > > Those two list members were trying to get home before the sun set. 
>=
> > We
> > > > > motored out until we were able to go downwind, wing on 
>wing.....all
> > > > the
> > > > way
> > > > > home. We even had enough free time to finish a wonderful bottle of
> > > > rum.
> > > > > Let's see if I got this right.....we were out sailing, and you 
>were
> > > > sitting
> > > > > on the dock. Which is more fun?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rummy.......some people just gotta have fun. :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > From: Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Date: 4/26/2003 3:18:39 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Leaving the dock under sail
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Russ,
> > > > > > I used to like to depart and dock under sail.  I got a lot of
> > > > > > hooraws, and comments like you don't know if your motor works. 
>Now
> > > > just
> > > > > > to be sure the motor works, I leave the dock under motor.  =
> > However,
> > > > I
> > > > > > still tack out under sail once I clear the docks, unless I am =
> > facing
> > > > a
> > > > > > stiff west wind.  It wasn't too long ago that I watched a 
>Rhode22
> > > > with
> > > > > > two of our illustrious list members on board motor way out 
>instead
> > > > of
> > > > > > tacking their way out.  I thought a sailboat was to be sailed.
> > > > Sounds
> > > > > > like Will is correct.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed K
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org=20
> > > > > > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Russell
> > > > Miller
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:36 PM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rock Hall & Rhodes
> > > > Rhendezvous
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JUst returned home from St. Pete, FL where Will attened the =
> > Colgate
> > > > > > Sailing
> > > > > > School; this week.  Now he is too smart for us "old" folks,  
>likes
> > > > to
> > > > > > depsart & return to the dock under sail alone, no motor, wise =
> > a--!!!
> > > > > > Any
> > > > > > how MJM you are welcome eorher or both with us.  We will be 
>going
> > > > across
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > bay from Rocky Point to Rock Hall Sat AM along with the others =
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > Western side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Russ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > s/v Bulldog----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rock Hall & Rhodes
> > > > Rhendezvous
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry it took so long to get back to you, had to check with 
>the
> > > > > > family, it
> > > > > > looking like my sister wants to do some over Memorial
> > > > > > > Day weekend, that will put use either in Bethany, de or 
>Potomac
>=
> > Md
> > > > > > close
> > > > > > enough for get-together(and some coverage on baby-sitting),
> > > > > > > figuring I had one mooring/afternoon or evening on Saturday or
> > > > Sunday,
> > > > > > what would the group recommend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MJM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 5:55 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rock Hall & Rhodes
>Rhendezvous=
> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alice (and everyone else within range of Rock Hall),
> > > > > > > > Don't forget the 2nd annual Upper Chesapeake Rhodes
>Rhendezvous=
> >
> > > > > > Memorial
> > > > > > > > Day weekend. Rock Hall is a day's sail from anywhere from 
>St.
> > > > > > Michael's
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > the Rhode River to Havre de Grace or the Sassafras. There 
>are
> > > > good
> > > > > > ramps
> > > > > > > > nearby and trailer storage can be arranged. There are nice =
> > B&Bs
> > > > and
> > > > > > couple
> > > > > > > > of Mom & Pop motels in town. there is additional info on the 
>=
> > web
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > Rock
> > > > > > > > hall at http://www.rockhallmd.com=20
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Plans are to anchor out Sat. night and take a marina slip 
>(or
> > > > > > mooring)
> > > > > > Sun.
> > > > > > > > night. The anchorages and the marina are close enough that
> > > > > > participants
> > > > > > > > could choose slips both night or anchor out both nights and
> > > > still be
> > > > > > close
> > > > > > > > by. Other plans are still up in the air so now is a good 
>time
>=
> > to
> > > > > > make
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > preferences known. Potential dinghy race entrants should be
> > > > > > forewarned
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > we now have new oars for the dinghy and expect it to be (not
> > > > much
> > > > > > of) a
> > > > > > > > contender.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alice, You can see a map of Kent County on the web at
> > > > > > > > http://www.kentcounty.com/driving/Tour%20Map.htm=20
> > > > > > > > Rock Hall is about 10 - 12 miles from Chestertown. Of course
> > > > it's
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > far from Kent Island by water. We often get down near Love =
> > Point
> > > > > > Light
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > afternoon daysails.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mary Lou
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At 04:36 PM 4/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > >Gil, the map is great and full of great ideas in the 
>making!
>=
> > I
> > > > > > think I
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > >one of Kent and can see how far you are.
> > > > > > > > >I had planned to call the boat "Sweet Solitude" and 
>probably
> > > > still
> > > > > > might,
> > > > > > > > >however, "Wonderland" has also entered the competition.  
>The
> > > > former
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > >makes me think of that beautiful feeling when the world is
> > > > quiet,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > wind is
> > > > > > > > >running through your hair, the boat is sailing well, you =
> > taste
> > > > of
> > > > > > salt,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >sun is shining, and everything is good on God's earth.
> > > > > > > > >Yep, think I'll keep that choice (as I'm off daydreaming of 
>=
> > the
> > > > > > water).
> > > > > > > > >Alice
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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