[Rhodes22-list] Peter's Questions
Wally Buck
tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Fri Aug 1 14:36:42 EDT 2003
Ed,
Will the early 70s models have the Rhodes 22 tag? The boat was called a
Rhodes Continental for a while wasn't it?
Wally
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
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><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Peter's Questions
>Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:31:26 -0400
>
>Peter,
> You have asked a bunch of questions. Some people on this list
>would be able to answer some of the question, but I think there is only
>one person who could answer all the questions and I do not know if even
>he could.
> Did Columbia make the Rhodes22? I can not answer this question.
>But can bring some facts out. Columbia Yachts acquired Coronado Yachts
>and then made boats with both labels. There was a Coronado 22 which
>allegedly was made from 1967 to 1969. Coronado sailboats was acquired
>by Columbia Sailboats in 1968, so there were 22' sailboats make by
>Columbia. Note that this all occurred before 1970. Columbia made
>sailboats until the early 1980's. They probably still had the 22' molds
>and may have used them. If you ever have seen a picture of a Coronado
>22 in the water, its hull resembled a Rhodes in shape but it was a keel
>boat, not a centerboard. So if their name is on a centerboard boat,
>then we can ask questions.
> Two things that should be on a Rhodes 22 is a name plate that
>says Rhodes22. That is usually found on back of the sides of the boat.
>The second thing to look for is the boat manufacturer id (MIC). CLV was
>retired in August 1982. see:
>http://www.cgaux.org/cgauxweb/public/pubframe.htm
> So, I would look to see if the boat has a plate on sides at the
>back that says Rhodes22. While you are looking at that, get the MIC and
>bring that information back to the list for discussion. There are many
>on the list who are quite happy with Rhodes22's made during the 1970's.
> Ed K
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:03 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] please help
>
>Peter,
>
>In the 1970s the Chinese bought a Boeing 707, took it apart, duplicated
>every part, and put their own version back together again. It looked
>just like a 707, only it couldn't fly because the center of gravity was
>not in the right place. The Chinese abandoned their "copy the 707"
>project.
>
>The R-22 is also carefully balanced. I'm sure the boat you are looking
>at will float, but it won't sail like one of Stan's R-22s. The tip off
>is that Stan won't recycle those hulls. They were not built to his
>standards.
>
>I wouldn't buy that boat. There are plenty of older boats available at
>very low prices if you are willing to do a lot of work. There are
>always several people on this list who have gone that route, and will be
>happy to help you.
>
>There are also many people who bought recycled boats from Stan at widely
>varying prices, and all who have posted seem to feel they got their
>money's worth.
>
>Some of the people who bought handy-man specials report that they would
>have spent less and gotten more if they had bought recycled boats from
>Stan in the first place.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Thorn
>To: Rhodes 22 List Members
>Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:50 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] please help
>
>
>I found a Rhodes 22 at a tempting price, however evidently not built by
>General Boats. Can any of you offer advice or do you know anything
>about this.
>
>At one time, did General Boats "subcontract" the fiberglass work to
>Columbia Yachts? Did someone at Columbia Yachts sell a few "out the
>back door"? Stan was obviously unhappy about this.
>
>Isn't a 20 year old boat, built by the same folks who did the fiberglass
>work then, just like any other 20 year old boat? Maybe, maybe not.
>Caveat emptor, right?
>
>Can the purchaser get in trouble with anyone by buying an unlicensed
>boat?
>
>
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