[ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on the list. my .01

[pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net]

Why is everybody so thin skinned these days?  Just because somebody has a 
different opinion, doesn't make their remarks disparaging.  I'm one that 
believes that a good disagreement can often lead to a healthy debate.  If 
you can remain open minded, you can often learn alot.  It would be a pretty 
boring world if everyone thought exactly alike.

Paul 

> Steve,
> 
> The point is, there would be more than 100 members if people were not 
turned 
> away by having their politics, gender, race, religion, etc., disparaged.
> 
> Rik,
> 
> I'm amazed you would join a list about something you find boring.  If you 
> want to discuss other things, join other lists.
> 
> Bill,
> 
> You offer hope that we can improve the charter democratically.  How 
should we 
> go about it?
> 
> Todd,
> 
> I'm not trying to discredit MJM's contribution, just trying to improve it-
-no 
> more bad jokes or misspelled words.
> 
> Fred
> 
> In a message dated 12/2/03 11:46:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> rhodes2282 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> > Good one, Rik:-)  Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. 
> > Your right on the money here.  Beside, I have gotten
> > use to hearing Roger scouting trip, Rummy-I talked to
> > him about everything &Michael &I have been toushing
> > cannon balls back &forth since the beginning of this
> > list.  I remember when the list first got started;
> > there were only a handful of us on the list.  It sure
> > was boring till it finally built up to around 100
> > members.  Now we have a little community.  The list is
> > good the way we have it.  And like you said, if
> > someone has a question; someone will come up with the
> > answer.  Believe me; we have talked about it all!!!!
> > Steve
> > 
> > 
> > --- Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >To all on the list,
> > >
> > >The thing I find most interesting about these on/off
> > >topic discussions is: 
> > >Those that are constantly complaining about the
> > >topic, very rarely post a 
> > >boating question. If we all sat around waiting for
> > >most of these folks to say 
> > >something, there would be nothing here but
> > >emptiness. AND no point in coming 
> > >here.
> > >
> > >So, all you "topic police", if you want someone to
> > >be here to answer your 
> > >questions when you finally come up with one, you
> > >might consider not asking 
> > >that all the veteran owner/sailors be bored to tears
> > >while they wait. If you 
> > >are going to insist on the boredom, soon there will
> > >be no one here to help 
> > >you.
> > >
> > >If you have a boating question, then post it.
> > >Everyone here is more than 
> > >happy to talk about boats and will help however they
> > >can if someone will just 
> > >post the question. But, it seems you very rarely
> > >hear from the "topic police" 
> > >except when they decide it's time to bitch about the
> > >topics. Then it seems 
> > >they have lots to say. I wonder, are topic
> > >discussions considered "boat 
> > >related"???
> > >
> > >Rik
> > >
> > >On 12/01/2003 01:17 pm, you wrote:
> > >>Todd,
> > >>
> > >>While agreeing with much of what you had to say,
> > >you should be aware that
> > >>when the charter was adopted it was done extremely
> > >democratically.  There
> > >>were probably 100+ of us on the list at the time,
> > >and we worked quite hard
> > >>on the charter.  Michael did not impose it, and
> > >has accepted every
> > >>modification.
> > >>
> > >>Fred,
> > >>
> > >>While agreeing with much of what you had to say,
> > >and having taken a similar
> > >>position in the past, I think it has become
> > >obvious over time that the only
> > >>way to hold the attention of the experienced list
> > >members who provide most
> > >>of the answers is to allow them to chat off-topic.
> > >>
> > >>Bill Effros
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>From: Todd Tavares
> > >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >>Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:53 PM
> > >>Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics on
> > >the list. my .01
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Fred,
> > >>
> > >>   I am probably way out of my place here, but
> > >being on the receiving end
> > >>of MJM's wrath, all the while ignorant of the
> > >content and make up of this
> > >>list here;  This is basically Michael's list (and
> > >others).  We exist here
> > >>because of the time, patience, energy, and money
> > >Micheal (and a few
> > >>others?)spend to administrate this list-serv.
> > >>
> > >>  Michael has a life and a family, and probably
> > >much more imortant things
> > >>to do with his time.  He choses to run this list
> > >server for his and all of
> > >>our pleasure and enjoyment.  Michael has given me
> > >the "take you computer
> > >>and go down the road speech" before; and that's
> > >putting it mildly.  While
> > >>this list does have a charter, it is still the
> > >creation of MJM and not a
> > >>democracy.  If MJM has the stomach to put up with
> > >my nonsense, then he (and
> > >>all here) have the patience of saints.
> > >>
> > >>  So as far as the procedures for adopting,
> > >recalling and amending the
> > >>charter?  I don't thinks Robert's Rules apply
> > >here, but i may be wrong :-)
> > >>
> > >>Thanks All,
> > >>
> > >>Todd
> > >>  Not a sermon.....just a thought.
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