[Rhodes22-list] Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

[Kroposki]

Dan, Rik and Rummy,
	Dan thank you for the latest on Ford's diesels, and for your
inputs on diesel fuel and additives.  
	Maybe we can get Roger to explain the chemical differences
during the Christmas holidays, if he gets them.
	As for #3, it was used in big locomotive engines during the
transition from coal to diesel.  It was used to generate steam.  
                          Ed K 
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:28 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the centen booster, BTW
mine might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it until I picked
it up), is their anything I should watch out for or bitch to the dealer
about?(reflash the chip)

MJM
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2


> Michael,
> I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350 Vans.  The last one I
owned
> was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel heater and I'm fairly
certain
> that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm in the Metro Detroit
area
> and we rarely have nights much colder than -10 degrees.  I learned
that I
> did not need to plug it in unless it was going to be colder than 10
below
> 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in when I knew it would
be
> colder than 10 below at night just to be safe. But, having forgotten
to do
> it a few times, taught me that they would start using just the
recommended
> start procedure.
>
> Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium diesel (which I think
is
> really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also make sure that the
water
> separator really does get drained with every oil change. I never had a
> diesel not start.  They were a little smoky sometimes when it was zero
or
> colder, but they always started.  I only used a diesel fuel
conditioner on
> one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I knew I was going to
have
> 20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel point of diesel
either,
> but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below... now that I think
about it,
> if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to your owner's manual,
then
> the gel point is printed on the back of some of the bottles of fuel
> conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L electronically controlled
diesel, if
> you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT better".  Raising
the
> flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc with proper
combustion.
> We had some initial growing pains with the new 6.0L Diesel, but the
reports
> I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004 units are top
drawer.
>
> Dan Bodnar
> SV QOL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Meltzer
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
>
> That nice to know, under a little knowage is dangerous I heard that
use
> Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also almost
> anything can go into a disel engine, like bio-disel, made from used
frechfry
> oil :-)
>
> MJM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
>
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing. Kerosene is more
> "refined"
> > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil than #2. I think
they use
> it
> > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and things, industrial
stuff more
> > down south than up around here. It's heavy enough that you have to
warm it
> up
> > before it will light easily. Not an expert on this though :-)
> >
> > I did run across a guy from down south a few years ago that claimed
to be
> > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was about -20 F that
night
> and I
> > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up (fuel gelled) on the
side of
> > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in nothing but a light
jacket and
> a
> > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see me. I would imagine
that
> they
> > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and start over with all
new,
> > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go anywhere again before
spring.
> I
> > think he learned that some of the things you can get away with down
south,
> > won't get you very far up here when it gets cold. Up here, we've got
real
> > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
> >
> > Rik
> >
> >
> > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes there is a #3.  Hey guys
help
> > > Rummy.
> > >
> > >                                                            Ed K
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've always just known it as #1.
> > >
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