[Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

Wed Dec 10 08:40:27 EST 2003

thanks, sound like my "beast" is in good hands.

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2

> Yes, Michael, make sure the chip is reflashed.
> The early ones had problems with cold weather ( no power cold) and with
> loosing power for no apparent reason (computer controls had a bug or two).
> There were some mechanical issues, but more rare, more obvious and easier to
> fix because once discovered they are easily repeated.  A March build is in
> fact right in the middle of the major upgrade period, so keep a watchful eye
> and ear. Check for TSBs online (although I don't have a recommended source).
> Also, e-mail me anytime she might hic-cup and I'll see what I can find out.
> 
> Dan Bodnar
> SV QOL  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:28 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> 
> thanks, I will watch it and take it easly on the centen booster, BTW mine
> might be a early one 3/2003(did not know it until I picked
> it up), is their anything I should watch out for or bitch to the dealer
> about?(reflash the chip)
> 
> MJM
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> 
> 
> > Michael,
> > I've had several of the old 7.3L Diesels in E350 Vans.  The last one I
> owned
> > was in 2001 and it had glow plugs and a fuel heater and I'm fairly certain
> > that the new 6.0L still has the fuel heater.  I'm in the Metro Detroit
> area
> > and we rarely have nights much colder than -10 degrees.  I learned that I
> > did not need to plug it in unless it was going to be colder than 10 below
> > 'cause the diesel started fine. I did plug it in when I knew it would be
> > colder than 10 below at night just to be safe. But, having forgotten to do
> > it a few times, taught me that they would start using just the recommended
> > start procedure.
> >
> > Anyway, fresh winter grade fuel, or some Premium diesel (which I think is
> > really #1) and your diesel should do fine. Also make sure that the water
> > separator really does get drained with every oil change. I never had a
> > diesel not start.  They were a little smoky sometimes when it was zero or
> > colder, but they always started.  I only used a diesel fuel conditioner on
> > one trip into Michigan's Upper Peninsula where I knew I was going to have
> > 20+ below-zero weather.  I don't remember the gel point of diesel either,
> > but I'm pretty sure it is lower than 15 below... now that I think about
> it,
> > if the numbers aren't in the diesel supplement to your owner's manual,
> then
> > the gel point is printed on the back of some of the bottles of fuel
> > conditioner.  Oh, and with the new 6.0L electronically controlled diesel,
> if
> > you decide to use a fuel conditioner, "more is NOT better".  Raising the
> > flash point of the fuel too far will play havoc with proper combustion.
> > We had some initial growing pains with the new 6.0L Diesel, but the
> reports
> > I'm seeing lately say that the late 2003 and 2004 units are top drawer.
> >
> > Dan Bodnar
> > SV QOL
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Meltzer
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: sanderico at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> >
> > That nice to know, under a little knowage is dangerous I heard that  use
> > Kerosene can be use up to 20% in the winter, also almost
> > anything can go into a disel engine, like bio-disel, made from used
> frechfry
> > oil :-)
> >
> > MJM
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
> > To: <kroposki at innova.net>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] RE: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> >
> >
> > > Ed,
> > >
> > > #1 fuel oil and kerosene are not the same thing. Kerosene is more
> > "refined"
> > > than #1 oil. #3 fuel oil is an even heavier oil than #2. I think they
> use
> > it
> > > for firing funaces (like asphalt plants) and things, industrial stuff
> more
> > > down south than up around here. It's heavy enough that you have to warm
> it
> > up
> > > before it will light easily. Not an expert on this though :-)
> > >
> > > I did run across a guy from down south a few years ago that claimed to
> be
> > > using #3 oil in the truck he was driving. It was about -20 F that night
> > and I
> > > stopped to help him as his truck was froze up (fuel gelled) on the side
> of
> > > I-94. Poor bastard was out in that shit in nothing but a light jacket
> and
> > a
> > > t-shirt. He was, to say the least, happy to see me. I would imagine that
> > they
> > > had to drain whatever fuel was in that truck and start over with all
> new,
> > > lighter fuel before that truck would ever go anywhere again before
> spring.
> > I
> > > think he learned that some of the things you can get away with down
> south,
> > > won't get you very far up here when it gets cold. Up here, we've got
> real
> > > honest to God.......COLD!!!!!
> > >
> > > Rik
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/08/2003 08:16 pm, you wrote:
> > > > KEROSENE!   What is # 3 used for? and yes there is a #3.  Hey guys
> help
> > > > Rummy.
> > > >
> > > >                                                            Ed K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Michael's Diesel #1 and #2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've always just known it as #1.
> > > >
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