[Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
Mark Kaynor
mark@kaynor.org
Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:49:52 -0500 (EST)
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:48:37 -0500
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Rik,
Haha. I sort of figured it was something like that, since they're still in
business. I really like the boat - if I was in the market for an
offshore-capable trailerable, I'd definitely look closer at it. But, like
you said, they get spendy. And Raven is much more appropriate for the kind
of sailing we normally do.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:55 PM
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> Mark,
>
> Yup. Been there seen that. Nor-Sea did have some problems, 10 or 12 years
> ago. The difference between me and most folks that have read that website
is
> that I have heard both sides of that story. Jim Montgomery (from the
> website) pretty much made his own bed on that deal. Far as I'm concerned,
he
> got pretty much what he asked for. The way I understand it, he's about the
> only one that didn't end up with a boat and for that IMHO he has no one to
> blame but himself. You see, he conveniently leaves out a few "small"
details
> on his website that sorta change the whole picture more to his favor.
>
> Rik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kaynor" <mark@kaynor.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:57 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
>
>
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> > Rik,
> >
> > The Nor'Sea looks like a nice boat. Did you see the web site r.e. all
the
> > people who were upset w/ Bob Eeg for taking deposits and not finishing
> their
> > boats? http://www.norsea27.com/
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> >
> >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > Yes, I did. In fact, I had a Nor-Sea surveyed out in Washington
(state)
> > > back in October. It turned out to be more of a project than I really
> > > wanted. They were though, definitely on the short list of boats I
would
> > > like to own. Ocean capable, but still transportable with no permit
> issues
> > > and such. A nice one will be quite expensive though. I'd say, given
> about
> > > equal quality, about 1 1/2 times a Flicka, on average, age for age.
Have
> > > had quite a few conversations with Bob Eeg, the builder of the Nor-Sea
> in
> > > the past. In fact, he wrote to congratulate me when he heard I had
> bought
> > > the Flicka.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rik
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:12 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >.ear> <5.2.0.9.0.20030212133155.00ad5960@pop.earthlink.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:11:27 -0500
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> > > >Rik,
> > > >
> > > >I meant "While you were searching for a transportable boat, did you
> look
> > at
> > > >the Nor'Sea as a possibility?".
> > > >
> > > >I figured w/ your truck and experience actually transporting it
> wouldn't
> > be
> > > >the issue for you.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:16 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Mark,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, why not??? I have a truck now and I have had others in the
> past
> > that
> > > > > would easily tow, either the Flicka or the Nor-Sea. The beam is
> about
> > the
> > > > > same on both, about 8 feet, although the Nor-Sea is a couple
> thousand
> > > > > pounds heavier than the Flicka. Draft is even within a couple
inches
> > of
> > > >the
> > > > > same.
> > > > >
> > > > > Towing these boats is really pretty much a non-issue for me. Any
of
> > them
> > > > > are far smaller than the race trailers I have towed all over the
> upper
> > > > > midwest for the last 17 years years and about 180,000 miles or so.
> > And, I
> > > > > do make my living in the trucking business, so I have a lot (about
> 28
> > > > > years) of experience with even bigger outfits than this. The
biggest
> > race
> > > > > trailer I had a few years back, would make almost two of the
> Nor-Seas.
> > 32
> > > > > foot box (36 ft overall) Tri-axle. Gross weight (loaded) about
> 15,000,
> > > > > about 27,500 counting the truck, 8'6" wide and 12' High. Truck and
> > trailer
> > > > > were about 64 feet long overall. After you drive something like
that
> > > >around
> > > > > for a while, towing boats doesn't seem like such a big deal
anymore.
> > Boats
> > > > > tow very easily in comparison.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rik
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 01:47 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >thlink.net <001501c2d2c7$a5c23bd0$6501a8c0@rik>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:46:08 -0500
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >Rik,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Did you look at the Nor'Sea as a "transportable"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:50 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > George,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Worry not....... Already had a bigger truck. And if that one
> isn't
> > big
> > > > > > > enough I've got some bigger ones than that too. I could haul a
> > Halberg
> > > > > > > Rassey 42 if I had to. Not likely though, the Flicka was
spendy
> > > >enough.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't really think of the Flicka a trailerable, more like
> > > >transportable.
> > > > > > > Ramp launching and retrieving in the same day isn't going to
> > happen
> > > >like
> > > > > >it
> > > > > > > does with the R22. The Flicka will live in the water for a
while
> > once
> > > >it's
> > > > > > > in there. But yes, the additional living space is the reason
for
> > > >having
> > > > > >it.
> > > > > > > Hope to have some extended stays down south in the winters
> ahead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "George Stecyk" <GeorgeS@af.tv>
> > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:32 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Flicka
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rik,
> > > > > > > > Saw the thead regarding your new (to you) Flicka, and saw
your
> > > >pictures
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > Chicago - great boat, I know someone who owned, sailed and
> lived
> > on
> > > >one
> > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > the east coast.
> > > > > > > > But trailerable??? You may need a bigger truck!
> > > > > > > > George
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:38 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nah, No thanks. Won't be needing that either.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > At 11:33 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >Ric, I am sure we still have the large supply of opium
> > around
> > > >for
> > > > > >bomb
> > > > > > > > > >"survivors"(cold war leftovers), otherwise know as the
> > > > > > > > > >walking dead. this is for the down range people, my wife
> > still
> > > >tells
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >story of riding out cernoble<sp> living in Germany.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
<rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:11 PM
> > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, I guess I would thank them for their concern and
> ask
> > > >that
> > > > > >they
> > > > > > > > give
> > > > > > > > > > > their stuff to someone who needs it worse than I do. I
> > think
> > > >if
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > nuke
> > > > > > > > > > > lands close enough that the radiation is going to be a
> > > >problem, I
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > probably have a hell of a lot more to worry about than
> my
> > > >thyroid.
> > > > > > > > 'Course,
> > > > > > > > > > > maybe that's just me.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > At 10:32 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >to use a bad paraphrase "if you have the question you
> > will
> > > >never
> > > > > > > > > > > >understand the paranoia", Had to sign a permission
slip
> > this
> > > >week
> > > > > > > > > > > >for the school to give out iodide tables to the kids
in
> > case
> > > >of
> > > > > >an
> > > > > > > > > > > >emergency(not kidding). The heath district is handing
> out
> > a
> > > >30
> > > > > > > > > > > >day supply to each household
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >And to save the next question, prevents the thyroid
> from
> > > > > >adsorbing
> > > > > > > > > > radiation
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:45 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Makes me glad I live out here in the middle. Seems
> > like
> > > >there
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > way too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > much paranoia out on the ends. Seal the windows
from
> > > >what????
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:13 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >waiting for the end of the current threat level,
> the
> > > >stright
> > > > > > > > > > answer is to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >"protect me", BTW thier was a run on ducttape in
> DC,
> > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >seal the windows.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > ><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:18 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, just what is it these troops are doing in
> > downtown
> > > >NY,
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > > > combat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gear???
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:55 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >well I have been spending the days getting
> > up-close
> > > >and
> > > > > > > > > > personal with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >troops in full combat gear, great fun
downtown
> NY
> > and
> > > > > > > passing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >thought grand central, give me a real safe
> > feeling
> > > >(not)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >MJM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Rik Sandberg"
<sanderico@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > ><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:34 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] Quiet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, It's up. Maybe we should have a
> > political
> > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > something :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) It ain't near so quiet then.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anybody heard any good parables lately????
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rik
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:13 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hey, it is awful quiet out there. Is the
> > list
> > > >up?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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