[Rhodes22-list] a good idea

John Tonjes johntonjes@earthlink.net
Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:47:41 -0500


Stan,
So, that's what's wrong with you? Calcifying of the brain? And here all
along I just thought it was because you were a crotchity old man. :)

Rummy

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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] a good idea




> General Boats wrote:
>
> > thanks Brad,
> >
> > Some of the world's problems I leave for Rose - who has much more 
> > worldly sense than I do.  But I enjoy give and take and it has 
> > achieved one of my
> > goals: to get some of the shyer members to start joining in.  When
the
> > logic is good, even my calcifying mind can be moved. I think this a
rare
> > list of brilliant minds, from the left and right (they must be, they
all
> > funneled their investigative choices down to a Rhodes) and feel sort
of
> > proud of the small part Rose and I played in getting such an
outstanding
> > group of multidimensional (non flat) personalities together. Have a
fun
> > vacation.
> >
> > stan/gbi
> >
> > brad haslett wrote:
> >
> > > Stan,
> > >
> > > To everyone's relief (especially my family) I'm
> > > leaving today for Florida to go sailing for a few
> > > days.  It will be up to you to solve the worlds
> > > problems.  With that in mind, let me leave you with a
> > > few thoughts.
> > >
> > > As was previously said on this list (Rummy I think)
> > > you would have been successful with or with out
> > > whatever help you recieved with your education.  You would have 
> > > succeeded without an education.  Talent and ability combined with 
> > > ambition is nearly always rewarded.  It may have taken longer but 
> > > you would still have achieved your goals.
> > >
> > > As a victim of blatant reverse discrimination I have
> > > some pretty strong feelings about affirmative action. Frankly, I 
> > > think its served whatever good purpose, if any, it can and is 
> > > overdue to eliminated.
> > >
> > > The following are all quoted from a Wall Street
> > > Journal letter titled "Wonder Land" by Daniel
> > > Henninger last January (sorry, I clipped the article
> > > but cut off the date, it was a Friday).
> > > "Three years ago in New York, the percentage of black students who

> > > did NOT graduate from high school was 54%.  In California, 41%. In

> > > Tennessee, 54% didn't graduate.  And in Wisconsin, which is 
> > > thought of as a fairly normal place, the percentage of black kids 
> > > who didn't make it out of high school in the class of 2000
> > > was a mind-boggling 59%....This data appears in
> > > Education Week's annual report, "Quality
> > > Counts"....What we know and have known for a very long
> > > time is that nearly half of America's black teenagers
> > > haven't a hope of attending even the least-known
> > > two-year community college anywhere.  What is the Rev.
> > > Jesse L. Jackson doing about this scandal?  He is
> > > calling Geooge W. Bush "the most anti-civil rights
> > > president in 50 years."  Given those shameful
> > > graduation rates, one wonders what the "pro-civil
> > > rights presidents were doing the past 50
> > > years.......It is remarkable how often the combatants
> > > in the debate over college affirmative-action default
> > > to the notion that nothing proves one's commitment to
> > > "diversity" more than one's willingness to adjust the
> > > entry requirements to a Harvard, Yale or Michigan.
> > > For instance, New Jersey Rep. Robert Menendez ripped
> > > into Mr. Bush last week over his legacy admission
> > > "into the Ivy League."  Yale?  The average black child
> > > attending high school in Newark, Camden, Paterson or
> > > Jersey City can barely hope of getting into, say,
> > > Rutgers......
> > >
> > > The author's point, and mine, is that we have bigger problems to 
> > > deal with in education than worry about a handful of 
> > > super-achieving minorities who will make it just fine with or 
> > > without affirmative action.  Just like you Stan.  Discrimination 
> > > is wrong.  Changing it from one color to a different color doesn't

> > > make it any less wrong.
> > >
> > > Brad Haslett
> > > --- General Boats <wwrhodes@rhodes22.com> wrote:
> > > > Glad to see we are back to political bashing - I
> > > > agree with Brad, it
> > > > perks up the list.   I also agree with Brad that
> > > > Billy boy is smart.  IQ
> > > > is over 200.  Georgy boy's is under 100 .  I have
> > > > mixed feelings about
> > > > the affirmative action program since I would have probably 
> > > > missed out if this were in place in my day - but don't know why
> > > > George would be
> > > > against it since he got into Yale because of
> > > > Affirmative Action.
> > > >
> > > > stan/gbi
> > > >
> > > > brad haslett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > The whole Lewensky thing was good for
> > > > entertainment
> > > > > value if nothing else.  If the press had done
> > > > their
> > > > > job in the late 80's and early 90's voters would
> > > > have
> > > > > known what a sleazeball Billy Boy was with his
> > > > pants
> > > > > up, much less down.  At least the congressional elections of 
> > > > > 1994 kept his big spending social programs in check.  Billy 
> > > > > Boy IS a smart guy.  I
> > > > would
> > > >
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