[Rhodes22-list] Robert & Roger: - trim rings

[John Tonjes]

Marc,
The trim ring on the interior is just that, a trim ring. It has NO
structural value. Proper caulking and using the proper screws to attach
the port on the outside is all you need to do. The trim ring is held in
place with caulking.

Rummy

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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Roger Pihlaja
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Robert & Roger: - trim rings


Marc,

It all depends upon how & where you intend to use your R-22.  If you are
ever out in heavy weather & take a good solid wave into those ports the
way they were installed; then, they will almost certainly blow out.  You
would be amazed how much water will get below thru even one blown out
port in heavy weather!  A seaworthy installation would always be thru
bolted as per my description in the FAQ.  You're a big boy & you can do
it however you wish, but remember you were advised on the correct way to
do the job.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Fiske / Marc Beroz" <kfiske@erols.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Robert & Roger: - trim rings


> Robert:
> The process so far has been painless. One port had been installed with

> silicone & popped right off. The other was had some type of adhesive 
> caulking & took just a bit more time to free. Both ports were held in
place
> by 10 screws that went  through the flange of the port into the 
> fiberglass skin (cabin side). These screws were about 3/4" long & only

> went through
the
> inner skin of the cabin wall. There was no foam or wood between the 
> inner
&
> outer cabin skins. There was a narrow band of caulking where the port
spigot
> passed through the outer cabin wall.
>
> I removed the screws and pulled the ports out. Then I just had to lift

> the trim rings off (only held in place by silicone or caulk). Took 
> much more time to clean  the caulking off the ports & fiberglass skin 
> than to do anything else.
>
> Beckson has installation instructions at 
> www.beckson.com/installport.html
>
> Roger:
> Thanks for the link. Beckson's website describes installing trim rings

> either with flush mount barrel nuts through the trim rings or just 
> using silicone with no fasteners through the rings. The latter is 
> certainly
easier
> & is what my prior installation was, - but it does not seem to be a 
> very ship-shape way to do things. At this point I'm either going to 
> use
silicone
> only or use silicone with  pan head screws through the trim rings & 
> outer skin to hold them in place. I do have any  wood or foam filler 
> between the
2
> fiberglass skins & am not planning to put any in. I 'd like to 
> re-install the rings as GB had done it originally (without fasteners) 
> but I wonder
how
> I can get a good silicone seal between the ring & fiberglass surface 
> doing it this way. Apparently both GB & Beckson didn't see it as a 
> problem so maybe I'm just fretting over  nothing. Marc
>
>
>
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