[ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] bow spit

[Gardner, Douglas L. (LNG-DAY)]

Michael, 

   For your use, the bow sprit might work well for the anchor roller and
cruising spinnaker, but after seeing Tom Deliberto's UPS, I think you REALLY
don't want it forward of the headstay.  His halyard was led aft (like the
topping lift) and allowed the ups to be set from the cockpit. Very easy to
do.  When you don't want the UPS up, just furl it then release the cam cleat
and pull it down onto the foredeck or even into the cabin. Although you
could gybe the UPS around ahead of the forestay, this would make it more
difficult to use when pointing.  IMHO, the UPS will work best set AFT of the
headstay.
When running before the wind, you could wing-on-wing the UPS and the genoa.

Really.  

  But by all means add the sprit, too!  

--Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Meltzer [mailto:mjm@michaelmeltzer.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:14 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] bow spit


well first off, I do want an anchor roller :-)
Second off I do have a cruising spinnaker :-)

Third off, doly is limiting the sail to a 13.5 lp, I think that a propriety
of the harken 3029, most likly I would want a 3049.
Fourth off I want to set my cleats back, like right next to the chain
plates, I know how a 175% feed into the winches and think it
is limiting sail area.
fifth off, by mounting the UPS inside the forstay means that I now have to
tack that sail inside, that is alot of canvas thought
that area. rather jib it outside
Sixth off, with the USP mounted inside the jib is unsuable, PITA factor,
only way around  is to goto the mast to lossen the halard,
not single handing friendly.

MJM
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy@netreach.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:10 PM
Subject: [ham] Re: [Rhodes22-list] bow spit


> Michael (or anyone) I can understand the desire for an anchor roller but I
> don't get the rest.
>
> Why would you want to put a UPS type sail out in front of the current
> forestay? At that point wouldn't it make more sense to just go with a
> cruising spinnaker? Or are you thinking of something more like sprit
> mounted spinnaker (?) on boats like some of the Js or the Melges 24s. My
> understanding of the benefits of the UPS is that it is simpler to use and
> can be used over a wider range wind directions than a spinnaker and as
such
> it is designed to be behind the forestay.
>
> Mary Lou
>
> At 10:22 PM 1/12/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >I have a idea that I also know I do not have the skills to evaluate or
design.
> >
> >I saw the UPS sail at the AC boat show, it nice but I would like to mount
> >it infrount of the current forestay, I have an idea for a short anchor
> >roller/bow spit that would solve this problem. Any option and knowing
most
> >of the cost with the fabrication is design(cutting files, bending lay-up
> >etc..) any volunteers (Rodger warren, david etc), my hope is to get it to
> >the point that dwyer(or like) can knock them out for a resonable price.
> >
> >MJM
> >
> >PS. my bad artwork is attached.
> >Name: bowusp.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 137069 bytes Desc: not available
> >Url:
>
>http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200301/12/bowusp.jpe
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