[ham] [Rhodes22-list] Router

[Michael Meltzer]

mjm is backed up bigtime, last 2 days have gotten nothing done. still have private email backed uppped.

The quick answer is:

1) use a hardware firewall/router at entry with statefull packet inpection(i.e. the sonice wall, and thier others that are cheaper,
time moves on), the software one are a second line of defence and make a great tripwire system.
2)use anti-veris software, message like email and all the music sharing systems will pass thought firewall but all loaded with
nastys(in fact the RIAA has processinal hackers writing hacks, claiming to have infected 90% of the music machines), the software
must be updating every four hours(norton or MaCeff)
3)stay on top of your updates, should be checking windows update once a week and using it(I know you are a mac, but for the rest)
thier are dozens of way for a website to take over your machine today, just viewing a email can screew your machine(the email calls
up html that go to an infected site, you do not even need to click on a attachment)

4)Will was clostest to the ideal, just need to use better AV software. You will not get any proection from "move the IP", "Hide the
IP", "window login screen" etc... it simply does not work.

MJM




----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Alm" <salm@mn.rr.com>
To: <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:13 AM
Subject: [ham] [Rhodes22-list] Router


> Saroj, Alex, David, Lloyd, and Will,
> Thanks for the info.  I had no idea I am being hacked constantly.  The
> National Security is surely in jeopardy!!!  I have many sensitive documents
> that, if fallen into the wrong hands could...well...spell the doom of
> civilization as we know it.  BUMMER!
>
> Only one problem:  What's a router?  Where can I get one?  How do I plug it
> in?
>
> Still waiting for MJM to chime in...
>
> Slim
>
>
> On 1/14/03 5:12 PM, "William P. Barry, III" <wp.barry@att.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a cable connection, as well as constantly having my computer online.
> > The best firewall is one of hardware. Example: Router. With a router any IP
> > address that leads to your home hits the router itself. All IPs off of that
> > are network based and any pings hit the Router Hardware itself. Even if
> > there is only one computer attached to the router, that physical blocking
> > device is the most protective in hiding your PC. The only way around it that
> > the user can make more accessible is by leaving ports open. To do this you
> > go into the router settings and enable port forwarding, so that you yourself
> > can connect to your PC from outside the network. This should only be used if
> > you change the default port number to something random, and when not in use
> > disable this feature. As a secondary measure I use Sygate Personal Firewall
> > on my PC, and am lucky to see anything hit my PC more than once or twice a
> > year. With this software you can say yes or no to any connections coming to,
> > or going out of your computer. Shockingly, you will find many connections
> > being sent from your PC that you never even knew about trying to phone home.
> > Most of these are just some ad programs that snuck onto your PC when you
> > download some freeware file. And the third measure of protection on my PC
> > that I have is grisoft anti virus. This is a free virus program that updates
> > itself on a set schedule, or on command. www.grisoft.com
> >
> >   Will Barry
> >   S/V Bulldog
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Bell" <alexbell@coastalnet.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hackers
> >
> >
> >> Slim,
> >>
> >> you're probably getting hit up 3 times an hour at a minimum. You won't
> >> see it unless you have some software that detects and protects you. I
> >> use BLACK ICE DEFENDER which can be bought and downloaded on the web.
> >> Looking at my log file, I see that one outfit has tried 52 times in the
> >> past year and there's a couple of hunderd addresses listed that have
> >> tried to enter my system from 50 to 20 times. I would look for
> >> something. It's just a matter of time before someone gets in and finds
> >> juicy tidbits.
> >>
> >> Alex.
> >>
> >> Steve Alm wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mac users,
> >>>
> >>> I'm not really much of a computer expert but I'm wondering if I'm
> > leaving
> >>> myself open to hackers.  I use the broadband service (Road Runner) and
> > I'm
> >>> always online.  I have no firewall.  I don't even use any virus
> > protection
> >>> because I have a Mac...so far, I've never been hit.
> >>>
> >>> I've been looking at Lavasoft's Ad Aware anti spyware stuff and I was
> >>> wondering if any of you have any comments on this.  I don't know if it
> > even
> >>> runs on Mac.
> >>>
> >>> Of course I have all my file sharing stuff turned off, but...?
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't want anyone to gain access to all of the very sensitive
> >>> information I have on my computer such as the lyrics to a thousand dirty
> >>> songs.  :-)
> >>>
> >>> Slim
> >>>
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