[Rhodes22-list] Taxes & Politics
brad haslett
flybrad@yahoo.com
Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:22:07 -0800 (PST)
Wally,
The last crime stat I read puts us about number four
but that constantly changes depending on who's doing
the reporting. I fly mostly days but when I do work
nights its with the cell phone on and a straight shot
to the suburbs..... You're right, the Pyramid wasn't
good enough for the NBA because it didn't have enough
corporate suites. My thought was; if there are that
many corporations that want basketball, let them build
the arena. Boy am I dumb!... Right again, I buy
everything I can online. If they pass an income tax
were outta here. Florida or Texas. I hear New
Hampshire is caving in on the tax thing and Washington
is a longer commute than I want to make. At the very
least I'd move back to Nashville or your end of the
state so you can turn off the TV and pretend none of
this exists. Its difficult to listen to others propose
their solutions to social problems when you are
frontline witness to so much waste, corruption, and
failed agendas.
Brad Haslett
--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Actually I had no idea things were that bad in
> Shelby County. I did hear on
> the radio that Memphis now has the nations highest
> rate of violent crime. Is
> this true? I never did understand why a new arena
> was needed. I guess it
> didn't have enough corporate suites? It seems like
> this thing was just
> built. What a waste of tax payers money.
>
>
> My biggest fear is that they will roll in an income
> tax and keep the sales
> tax at the current rate. I would be for a TN state
> income tax on wages but
> only after a major overhaul of current tax
> structure. The high sales tax is
> easy to get around and soon we will see revenues
> from sales tax drop, unless
> of course it is raised even higher. I order just
> about everythihng I can on
> line, usually with no sales tax.
>
> Wally
>
> >From: brad haslett <flybrad@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Taxes & Politics
> >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 05:42:18 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Wally,
> >
> >Since we seem to be the only Tenneseans I'm aware
> of
> >on the list I'll keep this discussion local in
> nature.
> > As you are probably aware, Shelby County
> (Memphis)
> >has more debt than the rest of Tennessee combined.
> >Plus, were adding another $250 million to the
> existing
> >$1.3 billion to build a basketball stadium. Of
> course
> >we have the Pyramid that isn't paid for yet. The
> last
> >number I heard was that 60% plus of the states
> social
> >welfare spending went to Shelby County. The
> Memphis
> >city schools have two years to clean their act up
> or
> >be taken over by the State. Yesterday, Mayor
> Herenton
> >announced plans to have the county take over the
> city
> >schools since he failed to have the city merge with
> >the county schools under his command. Whats my
> point?
> > You can't possibly throw enough money toward this
> end
> >of the state and solve all the problems. There is
> >more than just dirty water flowing down the
> >Mississippi. We have the fourth most regressive
> tax
> >structure in the Nation in TN. I would be all for
> an
> >income tax and a reduction or elimination of a
> sales
> >tax if the problems got fixed. They won't.
> TennCare
> >is broken and thank God we didn't get a socialized
> >medicine program like it Nationwide, not that its a
> >bad idea in theory, but it just isn't working. If
> I
> >look at all this from a purely a self-interested
> >perspective, lets pass a state income tax and make
> it
> >a big one. This sink hole I live in will suck off
> the
> >bulk of the revenue and maybe my property taxes
> will
> >go down to keep the county out of bankruptcy. To
> all
> >of you who live elsewhere, remember; what works on
> a
> >micro scale works on a macro scale as well. I get
> >excited thinking about all that Connecticut money
> we
> >can get our hands on and how quickly we can make it
> >dissapear!
> >
> >Brad Haslett
> >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I did say we needed to throw the tax book out
> and
> > > start over. I realize a
> > > flat tax alone is not the answer.
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Bill Berner <bberner@optonline.net>
> > > >Reply-To: bberner@optonline.net,The Rhodes 22
> mail
> > > list
> > > ><rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > > <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Taxes & Politics
> > > >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:32:40 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Wally -
> > > >
> > > >I respectfully disagree that a flat tax on
> wages
> > > would be fair. Because
> > > >when you add in all of the other taxes and fees
> > > that must be paid for
> > > >everyone it would shift a disproportionate
> amount
> > > of total taxes to
> > > >those in the middle and lower income brackets,
> > > creating a seriously
> > > >regressive tax system.
> > > >
> > > >Bill Berner
> > > >191 South Broadway
> > > >Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
> > > >
> > > >v 914 478 2896
> > > >f 914 478 3856
> > > >e BBerner@optonline.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
> > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Wally Buck
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:39 PM
> > > >To: rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Taxes & Politics
> > > >
> > > >Stan,
> > > >
> > > >Usuall discliamer - hit delete now if not
> > > interested in taxes -
> > > >
> > > >I agree with some of what you said -
> > > >
> > > > >Just tried to
> > > > >point out that if you cut taxes for some, you
> > > raise them for others.
> > > >
> > > >This is not true!!!! You are missing one
> critical
> > > piece of the formula,
> > > >you
> > > >forgot to cut spending.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Re your wish for a flat tax, Bill B points
> out
> > > that in effect we
> > > >already
> > > > >have that.
> > > >
> > > >Well Bill tried to point that out, but he is
> wrong.
> > > We actually don't
> > > >have a
> > > >flat tax on wages. See IRS tax schedule if
> there
> > > are any doubts. If you
> > > >throw in all of the other various taxes it
> might
> > > approach a flat tax
> > > >overall
> > > >but that is not the same thing. I think a flat
> tax
> > > on wages is fair. I
> > > >also
> > > >said we need to throw out the IRS book and
> start
> > > over.
> > > >
> > > >More tax cutting will make the low end pay even
> a
> > > higher
> > > > >percentage of their earning towards their
> total
> > > tax burden compared to
> > > > >the wealthy end.
> > > >
> > > >If we had a flat tax how would this be true? If
> you
>
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