[Rhodes22-list] Free Education
brad haslett
flybrad@yahoo.com
Sat, 25 Jan 2003 03:40:26 -0800 (PST)
Roger,
As I said in an earlier post my father kept us from
freezing during several winters because of
unemployment. I'm sure everyone is aware,
unemployment is paid from insurance premiums paid for
by employers. If a tree falls on your house you
wouldn't feel bad about using your homeowners
insurance. Why should the unfortunate circumstance of
losing your job be any different? My industry has
laid off 80,000 workers since 9/11, many of them close
friends. For many, if not the majority, their
chances of finding another job in the same line of
work is zip, zero. But, they will find something and
so will you. As my mother would say every year about
this time "Oh Louis, cheer up, you always find work in
the Spring and this year will be no different. Brad!
Get out there and clean that driveway!"
Brad Haslett
--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402@centurytel.net> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Although I didn't understand it very well at the
> time I was in engineering
> school, it was my humanities elective classes that
> enable me to carry on a
> conversation in "normal" society. My family & most
> of the people I know
> don't have a clue what I did for a living &
> certainly didn't want to talk
> about it. Laugh at me if you wish, but I am pretty
> much of a nerd.
>
> To The Rest Of You Conservatives:
>
> Speaking as someone who worked for the same company
> for nearly 26 years,
> paid huge taxes, never used any social "welfare"
> services in all that time,
> & who has now been unemployed for about 9-1/2 months
> - Your attitudes about
> "liberal" welfare programs make me feel like a real
> piece of shit. Thanks
> for making my day. You're sitting there fat, warm,
> & happy in your careers.
> You haven't got a clue. Neither did I. Excuse me,
> I have to go cash my
> last unemployment check & continue looking for work.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Berner" <bberner@optonline.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:19 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Free Education
>
>
> > I am getting tired of being one of the few
> "liberal" voices around here,
> > but has everyone forgotten the education has other
> functions besides
> > preparing people to make a living.
> >
> > As I understandstand it, gaining an appreciation
> for and understanding
> > of literature, painting, music, theater, and
> (gasp) philosophy, is
> > supposed to be an important part of higher
> education.
> >
> > Much better to spend the time and money on the
> NCAA.
> >
> > Bill Berner
> > 191 South Broadway
> > Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
> >
> > v 914 478 2896
> > f 914 478 3856
> > e BBerner@optonline.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Alm
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:56 PM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Free Education
> >
> > Good point, Paul. However, I doubt that anyone's
> getting smarter
> > listening
> > to me. (sigh)
> > Slim
> >
> > On 1/24/03 10:48 AM, "Paul Grandholm"
> <paul@mi.chtechnology.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Slim,
> > >
> > > I think what you are referring to here is
> free FORMAL education.
> > In
> > > my opinion, education is everywhere if you look
> for it. That's why I
> > > like what we've got going here. I may not agree
> with everything
> > everyone
> > > says, but if I respect their opinion and listen
> to what they're
> > saying, I
> > > can learn a little from each of them, and it's
> all FREE! The other
> > > component that sets us apart from Cuba is our
> freedom. We can say all
> > > these things without fear of government
> intervention. If you're in
> > > conversation, an are willing to listen as well
> as speak, everyone
> > comes
> > > away from the conversation a little richer and
> probably smarter.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >>
> > >> As our illustrious former Gov. Jesse Ventura
> said after cutting
> > millions
> > >> from the Univ. of MN spurring an immediate
> tuition hike, "If you're
> > smart
> > >> enough to get into college, you should be able
> to figure out how to
> > pay for
> > >> it."
> > >>
> > >> Although it was yet another example of his
> shoot-from-the-hip
> > comments, I
> > >> think there's a little wisdom there. Maybe
> just a little. But if a
> > college
> > >> education was a free and easy thing, wouldn't
> that make any advanced
> > degree
> > >> more common and less distinguishing? Further,
> in order to make their
> > >> programs look like they're working, there would
> be a big push to get
> > >> everybody graduated--so they'd have to dumb
> down the programs to
> > achieve
> > >> this. Instead of "No child left behind" it
> would be "No
> > dorm-squatting,
> > >> reefer-blowing coed left behind." [grin]
> > >>
> > >> Show me the money! We have enough trouble
> funding K-12. But I'm in
> > favor
> > >> of finding ways to make college more available
> to more people. Bush
> > is now
> > >> at loggerheads within his own cabinet on
> Affirmative Action.
> > >> Quotas...whatever! Let them in. Let everybody
> in. Even ere on the
> > side of
> > >> letting anybody in. But Don't lower the bar to
> get out!!!! Not even
> > the
> > >> first class. Calculus 101 isn't supposed to be
> easy.
> > >>
> > >> But for the good students, we need to find more
> creative ways of
> > helping
> > >> them get through. For you parents out there
> who are putting your
> > kids
> > >> through college, OWCH! I feel your pain.
> Tuition is outrageous.
> > Bring
> > >> back the GI Bill. What do you say we make a
> new tax (gasp!) on
> > companies
> > >> that require a college degree for employment?
> That money goes to the
> > >> colleges and universities (but not Bob Jones
> University) and offsets
> > the
> > >> tuition. We could call it the dorm-squatting,
> reefer-blowing tax.
> > >>
> > >> Last thought: Cuba has one of, if not the
> highest literacy rate in
> > the
> > >> world. And almost everybody goes to college.
> Has that helped Cubans
> > or
> > >> Cuba herself? I'd like hearing from any of you
> who know more about
> > higher
> > >> ed in Cuba.
> > >>
> > >> Slim
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > > ========================
> > > Paul Grandholm
> > > C&H Technology
>
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