[Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output

[Michael Meltzer]

Heed these words people, I seen allot of "commutations". A $25 VOM meter from radio shack is need for all work of this type on the
boat. And it is worth a few extra dollars if it can read above 10 amps.  Without the meter is like going to a brothel with out any
cash, you will be standing thier holding your Schlong:-)

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output


Jay,

Check out white/black color blindness--some people at the plant seem to have had some difficulty maintaining a consistent wire color
scheme.

On my boat, White is Neg. - Black is Pos.
However I've also seen Negative Circuits Black; Positive Circuits Red
And I understand the new standard is Yellow for DC Neg.

So what is yours?  Don't answer too fast.

If something is attached backward it could be creating a problem.

Start by looking at your motor.

Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jay Friedland
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output


Thanks, Bill, I needed that!!!

Seriously, I know I have a short some place but running checks across
all 6 circuits hasn't turned up anything. Without being able to isolate
it, I can only compensate right now. I know the cells aren't losing
much, just trying to hold what I can as a trickle charge. It's been
on-going since 1997, with some rewiring by a local marina guy, and then
at NC. Loss of voltage over weekend twice was after 1/2 hr.+ running
time on motor.

Sat., I'll have a fresh set of eyes and meters. Next slip, an
electrical engr. will help this weekend. Trying to do most of this
without losing sailing time as well. You know what I have and it
doesn't make sense-
it's not that complicated. Will persevere till I nail it.
Jay

On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 01:15 PM, Bill Effros wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Roughly .2 amps in bright direct sunlight--.1 when overcast.
>
> You are overcomplicating this problem.
>
> I have essentially the same equipment and use.  You must have a short
> somewhere.  You are not losing this much power through your solar
> cells.  You are not using this much power with your lights and sound
> system.
>
> Your Yamaha should put more electricity into your system in 5 minutes
> of running than your solar cells are capable of losing the following
> night--and a fully charged 2 battery system should have enough reserve
> power for more than 2 years of nights even if direct sunlight never
> falls on the solar cells during the day.
>
> My E-Meter measures the discharge of the solar cells at night.  It is
> accurate to .1--the discharge is less than that.  My system has
> remained fully charged day and night for more than 5 years (although
> the fully charged capacity has declined as the batteries have aged.)
>
> Find the short and stop fooling around.
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Friedland
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:47 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Solar Panel Output
>
>
> List-
> Can anyone tell me the output of the standard solar panels, I believe
> Solarex, used from the factory? I'm still having a problem with voltage
> loss with a 2 battery, 2 panel system with switch. Using only nav
> lights and the 12v Cambridge Sound system, unable to start Yamaha
> engine, except manually. Contemplating adding Starter batt. isolated
> for engine only. I'm adding ICP charge controller this weekend as well
> and take some measurements to see where I'm losing power.
> Thanks,
> jay
>
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