[Rhodes22-list] Titanic

Kroposki kroposki at innova.net
Sat Jul 12 08:33:41 EDT 2003


Jim,
	Where do you plan to put those water tight compartments on your
Rhodes22?
	Ed K

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jim Connolly
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:46 PM
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Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Titanic

I wish I could be more authoritative.  As best I recall, the trade 
publication was called something wildly original, like "The Shipbuilder"

(gotta love those imaginitive Brits!).  They discussed the watertight 
bulkheads and doors that could be closed from the bridge (provided you
had 
electricity).  The program shosed the cover of the issue in question, so
I 
have to believe they opened it and read the article.

Practically unsinkable sounds like a better quote.

This may have been a TV show about the Titanic, or may have been another

one I saw about a sistership (Brittanic or Olympic) that his a mine and 
sank in the Med in WW-I.  They sent Ballard and NR-1 to find the wreck
and 
determine the cause.

Jim Connolly

On Friday, July 11, 2003 1:31 PM, Bill Effros [SMTP:bill at effros.com]
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I did some research on the topic for a book.  I was sent to find
quotes 
from original sources.  Never found them.  If anyone can point me to an 
original source I'd love to see it.  Even after it had sunk, but before 
people knew what had happened, the White Star Liners spokesman was only 
willing to say it was "practically unsinkable"--and even that was not a 
direct quote.
>
> I don't know why a shipbuilding trade paper would have done a story 
detailing watertight measures on Titanic.  Those measures had been
employed 
on many boats prior to Titanic, and it was believed, or at least
reported, 
that, to use the words of the future Captain of Titanic in 1906 (6 years

before Titanic's maiden voyage) "I cannot imagine any condition that
would 
cause a ship to founder...Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that."
>
> By the way, this was the same captain who piloted Olympic into a Royal

Navy Cruiser, sustaining major damage.  He must have been related to 
somebody.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jbconnolly at speakeasy.net
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Titanic
>
>
> I recall seeing on the Discovery Channel or similar TV that the 
shipbuilding trade paper in England did an article during Titanic's 
construction which detailed the watertight measures on the Titanic.  It 
summarized by saying that the features (presumably if used properly) 
rendered the ship "...virtually unsinkable".  This was seized upon by
the 
non-technical press and the qualifiers ignored after she sank.
>
> Jim Connolly
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill at effros.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 01:09 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Titanic
> >
> > The claim that the Titanic could not sink was not made before it
sank. 
 When the reports of it's sinking reached the White Star Liners home 
office, someone was quoted as saying "It can't sink..."  The press
jumped 
all over this claim subsequently, probably in an attempt to justify
their 
earlier reporting.  The original newspaper reports claimed that everyone
on 
board had been saved.
> >
> > The Titanic had 2 sister ships, one built before the sinking of the 
Titanic, and one after.  The one built after was originally going to be 
named Gigantic, but that was changed to Britannic.  It sank too.  The 
original ship, Olympic, survived both war duty and commercial duty.
> >
> > The 3 ships were built for a New York to London "shuttle" 
concept--before the days of commercial airlines.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> >
> > Right on. The Titantic couldn't sink either remember.
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