[Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)

[Roger Pihlaja]

Saroj,

The complete answer to that question depends upon where you boat.  On some
bodies of water, existing 2-cycle engines will probably be grandfathered in,
at least for some period of time.  There are already bodies of water where
all 2-cycle marine engines are banned, mostly out west.  These bans are
mostly put into affect by local & state governments.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

----- Original Message -----
From: "Saroj" <saroj at pathfind.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)


> Will currently-owned 2-cycle motors still be permitted or will they be
> banned from all U.S. waters?
>
> Saroj
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
>
>
> > IIRC 2006 is the death date for the simply 2 strokes with a carburetor,
> both CA and Fed EPA, after that the only 2-stoke left will
> > need the fancy fuel injection system(i.e. Mucury Opti-max), the low end
> (40hp+- and below) will go all 4-stoke, that why everyone
> > has a miolds coming out.
> >
> > MJM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
> >
> >
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > Since 2-cycle engines are currently still legal to operate on most
> bodies of
> > > water in the United States, everyone must decide for themselves what
> they
> > > want to do re this issue.  Certainly, PWC's & large 2-cycle outboards
> > > generate lots more pollution & waste much more fuel than the
relatively
> > > small & infrequently used outboards on our R-22's.  I realize
replacing
> an
> > > outboard engine is an expensive proposition.  I myself did not switch
> over
> > > to 4-cycle engines overnight.  The 2-cycle Evinrude 6 came installed
on
> > > Dynamic Equilibrium when the boat was purchased in 1987 & we ran with
> that
> > > engine for 9 years.  I replaced the 2-cycle Evinrude 6 on Dynamic
> > > Equilibrium with the 4-cycle Honda 8 in 1996.  However, in that same
> year, I
> > > converted the long shaft Evinrude 6 back to a standard length shaft &
> ran
> > > the 2-cycle engine on our 10 foot inflatable sport dingy until 2000,
> when I
> > > purchased the 4-cycle Honda 9.9.  I finally sold the 2-cycle Evinrude
at
> a
> > > yard sale in the summer of 2001.  By that point, the Evinrude was
> getting a
> > > little tired & looked pretty scruffy, but it still ran reasonably
well.
> > >
> > > The nearly 2X greater fuel consumption & more than 10X greater exhaust
> > > emissions issues with 2-cycle marine engines are real & well
documented.
> > > Their continued use does not represent good stewardship of the planet.
> The
> > > real question everyone must ask themselves is, "Do you want to be part
> of
> > > the problem or part of the solution?"  Long term, I think 2-cycle
marine
> > > engines will either be saddled with so much emissions control
technology
> > > that the cost, simplicity, & weight advantages over 4-cycle engines
will
> go
> > > away or the 2-cycle engine will be banned altogether.  There is
already
> a
> > > small but steadily growing list of bodies of water wherein it is
illegal
> to
> > > operate 2-cycle marine engines.  That's something to ponder when it
> comes
> > > time to replace your current outboard.  If you wait until 2-cycle
> engines
> > > are outlawed; then, your current outboard won't have much resale
value.
> > > I've already voted with my checkbook.
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I'm Confused Was (Stupid People Tricks)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, Roger, I am sure you saw this coming but I like
> > > > my little 2 cycle motor.  Pollution & all:-)
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > > > > Richard,
> > > > >
> > > > > I can usually follow your line of reasoning; but,
> > > > > this time I'm confused.  The discussion was about
> > > > > the relative merits of 2-cycle vs 4-cycle marine
> > > > > engines.  What do alcohol burning model airplane
> > > > > engines have to do with gasoline burning marine
> > > > > engines?
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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