[Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question

[Eaton, Gil]

	Hi Mary Lou,
	I have used the GB vinyl coated anchor several times on the Elk
river, near the C&D canal, never had a problem.  It also has 6 foot of
coated chain.  I haven't anchored as yet in the Rock Hall area...  For me,
this has been a rotten year for sailing.   
	gil

Gil Eaton
S/V Closing Time
Spring Cove Marina
Rock Hall, MD


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Lou Troy [mailto:mltroy at netreach.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:21 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question


Michael,
My wife is not going to lift anything!!!   ;-)  But I would say that even 
26 lbs. is about the limit for what I want to routinely schlep around the 
boat. We do not keep an anchor on the bow. For routine anchoring in a quiet 
anchorage I carry the bag with the anchor and rode forward. On the 
Chesapeake, the Danforth is great. Most bottoms are soft mud. It digs in so 
well that we haven't worried about it resetting and extra chain would help 
there. I think for routine anchoring if we add more chain, the Danforth we 
have will continue to serve.  We do not always get it to set on the first 
try but I'm very conservative about such things. I'd rather pull it up and 
set it again if I'm unsure about it holding.

My larger concern is the "always ready" anchor. Is your "always ready" the 
5 kg claw? What does it do on a mud bottom?  We keep the Danforth in the 
lazarette in a bag in a ready state (anchor on top, chain beneath, rode 
neatly flaked under that and the bitter end out through a grommet in the 
bag for quick attaching.) We could deploy it pretty quickly from the stern 
if we had to but we've never had to - our Honda is very reliable ;-)

I've also been debating a storm anchor as our current Danforth is really 
not big enough for that. We've been relying on the fact that we have two 
(the Danforth and the Danforth type from GB) aboard both with sufficient 
rode to be set for a storm. In reality we've only ever set the one and have 
probably not ever anchored in winds above 15 knots with maybe 20 knot gusts.

Does anyone use the GB Danforth type anchor?

Mary Lou





At 11:14 PM 7/21/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>The spade is the best :-)
>
>  the answer "it depends".
>1)The spade it best of class these day, highest holding, all bottom type, 
>fast set and reset, will not sail, pay deadly and hard to
>store without a roller, r22 size is model 60, it does break down, use it 
>for storm and to sleep on.
>2)Bruce(claw), best for short scope, fast set and reset, will not sail, 
>great for rocky, hard and hard sand, not great in soft
>mud(it need to backed down into hard stuff), the claw is cheap enough that 
>if you thing you might loose your anchor(slip the rode)
>it the one. hard to store anything other the 5kg on the boat. I use it for 
>the "always ready anchor". rode out 40 knot gale on it.
>3)the danforth, I hate them, they only seem to work in soft mud, anything 
>else, do not reset but skip over the bottom and rarely get
>more then one "point " in the bottom, you keep moving once dragging 
>starts, biggest problem is they sail when you need them
>most(like lost an engine), only saving grace is they are light and store 
>on the bow, but most people do not keep the rode connected
>so they are not ready to run., 12 pound seems to be a r22 size.
>4)qcr,delta, plowtype's they weight to for the rhodes22 size, they do not 
>break down and are very hard to store.
>5)the fisherman is the standard for rocks/weeds but no one seems to use 
>them anymore.
>6)any 2-stoke motor :-) sorry bill.
>
>I think Richard did a good job with the chain, but my two cents worth, I 
>use 1 foot of chain per boat length,(rule of thumb around
>me, it mostly to protect the rode from the bottom but does help with the 
>scope) but you must watch the total system weight, keep in
>mind that your wife is going to lift it, 1/4 chain is fine for the boat, 
>22 feet at .65 pound per foot is 14 pounds plus 12 pounds
>for the anchor is about the limit of women can lift and move around a 
>deck(sorry unPC), soon or later she will be lifting the full
>weight from anchoring to deep, if it's to heavy the boat will be scratched
up.
>
>For your next question, get 200 feet of NewEngland 3/8 3 strand. the 1/2 
>is to stiff for the boat, this is a case were bigger is not
>better, for a storm anchor 200 feet of 7/16, and use a shackle not a 
>swivel(it will unwind the 3 strand).
>
>MJM
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mltroy at netreach.net>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:11 PM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another Danforth question
>
>
> > Has anyone had the opportunity to compare the painted Danforth type
anchor
> > that comes with the boat with one of the true Danforth's? for our
primary
> > anchor we've been  using a true Danforth that we had as the big anchor
for
> > our ComPac 16 rather than the anchor that came with the boat. I know the
> > Danforth well enough to usually get it to set the first time. It's been
so
> > successful that we haven't tried the other which is not much (if any)
> > larger but I'm curious about how well the other anchor works.
> >
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 Rhodes 22 Fretless
> > Rock Hall, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
> >
> >
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