[Rhodes22-list] Catalina 22 vs. R22

[Steve]

David
I have never had a Catalina 22 beat me or even come
close.  I can't explain Mark's comments below. I have
never even had a Catalina 25 beat me.  I have found
that it usually take a boat over 26 feet to beat me
but I only need them to make a couple mistakes for me
to get them.    

The R22 has a real keel.  That make all the different.
I have the 175% genney with a stardard main.  In wind
over 15 knots, I just flatten that sails & the R22
point very well.  The Catalina 22 does not carry the
sail area that the R22 does. Sail adjustment is the
key to differnet wind conditions. 
Steve


   
--- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
> David,
> 
> One of our friends has a Catalina 22. He's from New
> Zealand (I think those
> guys are born knowing how to sail). It's got a swing
> keel, the cockpit is
> smaller, and I don't particularly like the feel of
> his helm (too stiff).
> That being said, he regularly beats us if the wind
> is above 10 knots, and we
> at least usually give him a run for his money when
> the wind is less than 10
> knots. Our sailing club uses the Portsmouth
> yardstick handicap for our
> regattas and our boats have similar handicapsc -
> ours is 98 and his is 96.4.
> 
> I've never noticed him having any problem w/ side
> slip with his boat, and he
> is regularly able to sail closer to the wind than
> us. It is interesting to
> note, however, that he has said several times that
> in a few years he wants
> to buy a Rhodes after sailing ours w/ us. And his
> reasons are mostly all
> those "quality and accessory features" that in
> themselves wouldn't induce
> you to trade. Go figure - different strokes....
> 
> Mark Kaynor
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Blakey, David M.D." <DBlakey at CHKD.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:04 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Catalina 22 vs. R22
> 
> 
> > Okay, guys,
> >
> > I currently have a Catalina 22, but am considering
> a lateral move to a
> > (hopefully!) better-performing boat.  The R22 is
> on my short list (along
> > with the Precision 23).  My sailing pattern is
> mostly just leisurely
> > daysailing close to home and, frankly, the
> Catalina is fine for that.  But
> > on the rare occasion when I have actually tried to
> sail somewhere, I've
> been
> > disappointed with my current boat's overall
> performance, particularly
> upwind
> > performance.  She makes lots of leeway, so it's
> hard to make headway
> toward
> > a given destination.  So I'm asking the group for
> some perspective here,
> > particularly those of you who are familiar with
> both Catalinas and Rhodes.
> > Does the R22 sail that much better than the C22? 
> I don't question that
> > build quality and accessory features are superior
> in the R22, but those
> > things in themselves wouldn't induce me to trade. 
> I'm trying to figure
> out
> > if it's worth the trouble and expense of trading,
> so any advice would be
> > appreciated.  I realize this topic has probably
> come up on the list
> before,
> > but I'm new to the list, so please forgive any
> redundancy.  In the same
> > vein, any thoughts on the P23?  Thanks,
> >
> > David B.
> >
> >
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