[Rhodes22-list] Genoa Cleats

[Ronald Lipton]

Roger,

  Great description, as usual.  Just what I need.  I was concerned about
drilling  through the liner. The use of fender washers
and barrel nuts should make for a nice installation.

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa Cleats


> Ron,
>
> The cabin roof is about 1-1/2" thick in that area, certainly thick enough
&
> plywood cored.  But, how were you planning to attach the cleat if not by
> thru-bolting - wood screws?  The roller furling control line can be fairly
> heavily loaded.  It is considered bad engineering practice to do anything
> but thru bolt heavily loaded deck fittings.
>
> Before you do anything, please take a look at the following reference:
>
> "Fiberglass Boat Repair & Maintenance, With WEST System Epoxy", Revised
> Edition, Published By Gougeon Brother Inc., PO Box X908, Bay City, MI
48707,
> 989-684-1374, Cat No: 002-550, Sep., 1988, pages 46 - 50
>
> The most recent edition of this pamphlet is available at West Marine
stores
> or just about any other marine chandlery that sells WEST System epoxy
> products.  Or, look in the 2003 West Marine Master Catalog on page 388.
>
> Basically, you will drill out the mounting holes oversize, tape over the
> holes thru the cabin liner, & backfill the holes with epoxy using a
> hypodermic syringe.  Then, you will redrill the mounting holes thru the
> hardened epoxy.  This will completely seal the plywood core to prevent
> moisture intrusion in the future & provide a stable, crushproof region
thru
> the plywood core that will not be deformed when the cam cleat is loaded.
>
> Please allow me to introduce you to a wonderful piece of thru-bolting
> hardware called the "barrel nut".  Look in the 2003 West Marine Master
> Catalog on page 512.  You didn't say if the particular cam cleat you were
> going to use required #10 - 24UNC or 1/4" - 20UNC screws; but, there are
> barrel nuts listed to fit either size.  You can either fabricate your own
> backing plate from 12 gage SS plate or you can use SS fender washers for
> backing plates.  On page 512 in the 2003 West Marine Master Catalog, use a
> 1" OD X 1/4" ID SS fender washer with the #10 barrel nut & a 1-1/2" OD X
> 5/16" ID SS fender washer with the 1/4" barrel nut.  You will have to trim
> the lengths of the SS mounting screws to fit the barrel nuts & the
thickness
> of the cabin roof under your new cam cleat.  The finished installation
will
> only show the SS backing plate or SS fender washers & the polished
Phillips
> screwheads of the barrel nuts.  It won't be a head banger, will be very
> strong, & yet readily accessible if you ever need to take it apart.
>
> Please don't use wood screws.  Good luck!
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald Lipton" <lipton at sprynet.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa Cleats
>
>
> > This must have confused some folks.  I ment the furling line, not the
> > sheets.  Sorry.  I was just wondering if the cabintop fiberglass is
thick
> > enough to support the cleat or if some sort of backing plate is needed.
> >
> > Ron
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ronald Lipton" <lipton at sprynet.com>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:38 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Genoa Cleats
> >
> >
> > > The Genoa sheets on my '89 have an annoying habit of slipping though
> > > the jam cleats, unfurling  the genoa.  I would like to
> > > add cam cleats to the cabintop.  Has anyone done this? What is
> > > the proper procedure? Is the fiberglass thick enough to support
> > > the cleats with no backing?  Any advice would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Ron Lipton
> > > Empress of Blandings
> > > Michigan City, In
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