[Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett

Tue Jul 29 19:22:34 EDT 2003

thats like saying you hug sail boat masts durring lighting storm for 15 years :-)

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
To: "kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett


> Ed,
> The gas tank has been in the lazzerette for fifteen years already......you
> might be waiting quite a while. In fact, when I bought the boat, there was
> a fifteen gallon tank in there. I replaced it with something a little more
> practical. The boat has been inspected by the CG the past five years and
> passed each time.....not even a raised eyebrow with the tank in the
> lazzerette.
> 
> Rummy
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: 7/29/2003 6:12:12 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett
> >
> > Rummy, 
> > Let me know when this is going to happen so I can bring my
> > camera.
> >                  Ed K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve Alm
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:16 PM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes
> >
> > MJM,
> > No need to sugar-coat it for us.  How do you really feel?
> > Slim
> >
> > On 7/29/03 1:00 PM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ok we will go with gas in the lazzerett.
> > > 
> > > Lets start with a couple of simple images.
> > > 
> > > Kaboom, fire ball, fuel-air-explosion, daisy cutter, MOAB, people
> > diving into
> > > the water burning alive, walking dead men from burned
> > > lungs, backend flash hanging from limbs, fiberglass spinal impaled
> > into
> > > children,  limbless bodies being fished from the water,
> > > close casket funnels were a family is being interned. People in burn
> > wards
> > > hoping for death with doctor knowing it will come in 20
> > > days. The smell of charted flesh lingering in the air. The sight of a
> > boat
> > > burnt to the waterline.  Should I keep going? What about
> > > a tomb stone inscribe with "he knew better, look were he is now".
> > > 
> > > 1)all tanks leak,
> > > 2)all tank overflow when fill.
> > > 3)fuel line connectors come off.
> > > 4)counting on wind, think hot sunny no wind days.
> > > 5)IIRC opening below GC regs, need power blower)
> > > 5)spillage get into the foam
> > > 6)leakage getts into the cabin
> > > 7)lots of air space for fuel-air-explosion(cabin, under cockpit and
> > lazzerett)
> > > sticks of dynamite equ.
> > > 8)rolling about thing can puncher it.
> > > 9)speckers, bilge pumps, outboard wireing, 12 sockets, electorices,
> > running
> > > light wires, etc can set it off.
> > > 10)it hidden, you never see the problem.
> > > 
> > > That me getting started, any one else have a comment.
> > > 
> > > MJM
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> Michael,
> > >> If he uses an unvented gas tank how are there any fumes in the
> > >> lazzerett?  My lazzerett opens under the seats so that it is really
> > >> vented.  Does the lazzerett in question have air access under the
> > seats?
> > >> Does he need a vent on the rail (highest point)?
> > >>        Ed K
> > >> 
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> > Meltzer
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:51 PM
> > >> To: johntonjes at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engines...again.
> > >> 
> > >> It is getting time for a new subject, at least for this quarter, what
> > >> about the difficulty of sex while single handing, or the
> > >> average man takes only 1.5 minutes, or how many ways can a port leak,
> > >> "stupid boat ticks", even blowing up a boat from gas fumes in
> > >> the lasserret.
> > >> 
> > >> MJM
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> > >> To: "Rhodes org. owners list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:40 PM
> > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Engines...again.
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>> Roger,
> > >>> OK, so we now know that the four stroke engines do not have a
> > >> catalytic converter, which makes them already not very
> > >> environmentally friendly. Catalytic converters were put on vehicles
> > to
> > >> reduce the effects of acid rain which is a chemical reaction
> > >> involving the exhausted gases, moisture and sunlight and returns the
> > >> moisture as acid rain and is also the major cause of smog.
> > >>> If my college chemistry isn't failing me, the unburned hydrocarbons
> > >> emitted from 2 stroke engines, although entering the water
> > >> supply, are simply evaporated by the sunlight in a matter of days.
> > Kind
> > >> of what happens with an oil slick from a oil tanker that has
> > >> run aground and broke open. However, I understand that the government
> > >> mandated additives in the gasoline stay behind. Seems to me
> > >> you eliminate the additives from the gasoline and it's a toss up as
> > to
> > >> which engine pollutes more.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Rummy
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> John Tonjes
> > >>> johntonjes at earthlink.net
> > >>> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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