[Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett

Tue Jul 29 20:13:13 EDT 2003

what censorship? I am not moderating the posts, Rodger is upto 11 page articles on the subject, personal option it approaching
beating a dead horse.

 The lazzeret bit was a straight rehash of "kaboom" from 5 years ago, figured a new generation would find it funny and you generally
like to stir the pot, sorry if you took offence.

MJM

so the lack of Catalytic converters which consume unburt hyocarbane turning them to heat, which would work on both 2 stroke and 4
stoke but might melt the boat make environmental output the same, assuming unburn gas stays on the water surface(after the prop
mixes them in), but because their are many solvable chemicals in the gas(one of them MBTE) all you need to do if reformulate the
nations gas supply so 1/2 of 1 % (and I guessing even that is high number) of it can be used in two stokes. I think I got that right
so go for it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
To: "kroposki at innova.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett

> Michael,
> This is really getting old, but I attempt to reply to some of your concerns.
> 1. NOT all tanks leak.........possibly yours, but not mine.
> 2. I fill my tank with a smaller 2 1/2 gallon tank and I use a long neck
> funnel.......not even a drop gets spilled.
> 3. Tohatsu fuel line connections don't mysteriously come off....it takes a
> lot of effort to remove one.
> 4. No wind, then you must be motoring....creating wind. Sitting
> still....close the vent idiot.
> 5. The lazzerette in MY boat is a sealed compartment. Nothing can migrate
> from the lazzerette into the cabin. Don't believe me....come have a look
> see.
> 6. I don't like the idea of having gas tanks in the crew area. To many
> chances for damage and spillage.
> 7. The only electrical connections in the lazzerette are the speaker
> wires.......soldered in place.
>
> If you don't like the motor discussion, do like I do when something comes
> up I don't like....delete it, but don't try to set the standards and the
> topics up for discussion. Yes, even your comical sensorship of some of my
> posts.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kroposki <kroposki at innova.net>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: 7/29/2003 6:12:12 PM
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes in Rummy's lazzerett
> >
> > Rummy,
> > Let me know when this is going to happen so I can bring my
> > camera.
> >                  Ed K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve Alm
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 5:16 PM
> > To: Rhodes
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes
> >
> > MJM,
> > No need to sugar-coat it for us.  How do you really feel?
> > Slim
> >
> > On 7/29/03 1:00 PM, "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ok we will go with gas in the lazzerett.
> > >
> > > Lets start with a couple of simple images.
> > >
> > > Kaboom, fire ball, fuel-air-explosion, daisy cutter, MOAB, people
> > diving into
> > > the water burning alive, walking dead men from burned
> > > lungs, backend flash hanging from limbs, fiberglass spinal impaled
> > into
> > > children,  limbless bodies being fished from the water,
> > > close casket funnels were a family is being interned. People in burn
> > wards
> > > hoping for death with doctor knowing it will come in 20
> > > days. The smell of charted flesh lingering in the air. The sight of a
> > boat
> > > burnt to the waterline.  Should I keep going? What about
> > > a tomb stone inscribe with "he knew better, look were he is now".
> > >
> > > 1)all tanks leak,
> > > 2)all tank overflow when fill.
> > > 3)fuel line connectors come off.
> > > 4)counting on wind, think hot sunny no wind days.
> > > 5)IIRC opening below GC regs, need power blower)
> > > 5)spillage get into the foam
> > > 6)leakage getts into the cabin
> > > 7)lots of air space for fuel-air-explosion(cabin, under cockpit and
> > lazzerett)
> > > sticks of dynamite equ.
> > > 8)rolling about thing can puncher it.
> > > 9)speckers, bilge pumps, outboard wireing, 12 sockets, electorices,
> > running
> > > light wires, etc can set it off.
> > > 10)it hidden, you never see the problem.
> > >
> > > That me getting started, any one else have a comment.
> > >
> > > MJM
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:25 PM
> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas fumes
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Michael,
> > >> If he uses an unvented gas tank how are there any fumes in the
> > >> lazzerett?  My lazzerett opens under the seats so that it is really
> > >> vented.  Does the lazzerett in question have air access under the
> > seats?
> > >> Does he need a vent on the rail (highest point)?
> > >>        Ed K
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> > Meltzer
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:51 PM
> > >> To: johntonjes at earthlink.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Engines...again.
> > >>
> > >> It is getting time for a new subject, at least for this quarter, what
> > >> about the difficulty of sex while single handing, or the
> > >> average man takes only 1.5 minutes, or how many ways can a port leak,
> > >> "stupid boat ticks", even blowing up a boat from gas fumes in
> > >> the lasserret.
> > >>
> > >> MJM
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
> > >> To: "Rhodes org. owners list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:40 PM
> > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Engines...again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Roger,
> > >>> OK, so we now know that the four stroke engines do not have a
> > >> catalytic converter, which makes them already not very
> > >> environmentally friendly. Catalytic converters were put on vehicles
> > to
> > >> reduce the effects of acid rain which is a chemical reaction
> > >> involving the exhausted gases, moisture and sunlight and returns the
> > >> moisture as acid rain and is also the major cause of smog.
> > >>> If my college chemistry isn't failing me, the unburned hydrocarbons
> > >> emitted from 2 stroke engines, although entering the water
> > >> supply, are simply evaporated by the sunlight in a matter of days.
> > Kind
> > >> of what happens with an oil slick from a oil tanker that has
> > >> run aground and broke open. However, I understand that the government
> > >> mandated additives in the gasoline stay behind. Seems to me
> > >> you eliminate the additives from the gasoline and it's a toss up as
> > to
> > >> which engine pollutes more.
> > >>>
> > >>> Rummy
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> John Tonjes
> > >>> johntonjes at earthlink.net
> > >>> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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