[Rhodes22-list] Bill Berner namesake?

[Kroposki]

Will the real Bill Berner please identify themselves.

                            Ed K

 

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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Berner
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:03 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering,well raising actually - read
it backwards

 

I, like my namesake in Ct. have raised and lowered the IMF mast with
only one other person (albeit male).  In fact I've done it at least as
many times with one helper, as two.

 

I raise my mast from the bow.  I'm able to get it into the tabernacle by

myself by loosely tying a line around it at the bow pulpit and at the
cabin

top grab rails.  I do have to retie once or twice to get around the

spreaders while I'm walking the mast forward.  The ties on the cabin top

become critical once there is more of the mast forward of the bow pulpit

than aft.  The line is the only thing that keeps the mast from see
sawing to

the ground.  Once I have the foot of the mast bolted into the
tabernacle.  I

get rid of the lines, and connect the lower forward stays and shrouds.

Important to remember to run the shrouds outside and not through the

lifelines.  I've learned the hard way.  I also keep the boom bungeed to
the

mast, where I'll be able to reach the bungee when the mast is up.

 

If my helper is not regular crew, just some kind hearted soul I've
recruited

(bribed) from the ramp area, I only need their help for less than 5
minutes

 

The key is to have the shrouds and forward lower stays attached to the
chain

plates, and the boat on the trailer with the bow a little high.  We
throw

the mast up quickly, and then gravity keeps it trying to fall to the
stern,

while the lower forwards prevent it from doing so, and the shrouds keep
it

centered.  The helper keeps hands on the mast just to make sure it can't

come back forward, while I attach the lower aft stays and back stay.
The

helper is done, and I attach the head stay with the furler at my own
pace.

 

Lowering is exactly the reverse.

 

Bill Berner

191 South Broadway

Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706

 

v 914 478 2896

f 914 478 3856

e BBerner at optonline.net

 

 

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From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org

[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Steve Alm

Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:56 PM

To: Rhodes

Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering

 

Rob,

 

Sorry about the dropped mast.  That's what happens when you get the
wenches

involved.  8-)  Sorry, girls, I couldn't pass that one up.  8-)  The
winch

on my GB crane will not spin if you let it go.  That would be quite a

hazard--even for a knave.

 

Slim

 

On 7/30/03 12:50 PM, "Rob Lowe" <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

 

> Slim,

> In lieu of a GB system, I have used my trailer winch which is what Bob

also

> did.  I make sure my main halyard is hooked on one end and use the
other

> attached to the winch.  I tie a bowline up as far as I can reach, and
hook

> the winch to the loop.  Tighten slightly to take pressure off the
forestay

> and forward shrouds and release them.  Reverse the winch and lower
away.

> With just the two of us we can lower the mast.  I do not have the IMF
so I

> guess mine's not as heavy as one with the IMF.  Works relatively well

until

> the winch got away from my wife last time and the mast fell the last

couple

> of feet and pulled the base place off (reported a couple of weeks ago
and

> since repaired).  I raise the mast by reversing the process, just make

sure

> the bowline on the halyard is not to high to reach once the mast is
up! -

> Rob

> 

> Rob Lowe

> S/V Getaway

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>

> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 2:05 AM

> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering

> 

> 

>> Anne,

>> 

>> I do TOO have an IMF--that's exactly why I'd prefer to use a winch
rather

>> than man-power and a twelve pack. 8-)  However, I confess I haven't
tried

>> the method I described, because I have the GB hoisting rig, but I'll
bet

> it

>> works fine.  That's how Bob H. did it on Getaway--now owned by Rob
Lowe.

>> Rob??? Help me out here, buddy! And if you don't have a trailer, you

could

>> set up a temporary winch on the bow, or, well...why don't you just
get

the

>> GB rig?  Believe me, it's too good to be true.

>> 

>> And never mind that Minnesota thing--love me for who I am!  8-)  I
spent

a

>> lot of my years in Mankato, but I'm really just a poor kid from the
res.

>> (South Dakota)

>> 

>> Slim

>> 

>> P.S. Yeah, good one Lloyd!

>> 

>> On 7/29/03 9:32 PM, "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>> 

>>> Steve,

>>> You cannot even join this conversation...first you have an empty

>>> mast (no IMF...that is heavy!!!) and I have no trailer!

>>> Love ya cuz yer a Minnesotan,,

>>> Anne

>>> 

>>> 

>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: "Steve Alm" <salm at mn.rr.com>

>>> To: "Rhodes" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:11 PM

>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast Lowering

>>> 

>>> 

>>>> Anne and Rummy,

>>>> 

>>>> You both may already know this one, but it's worth mentioning.  You
can

>>>> raise and lower the mast with the winch on the front of the
trailer.

> Of

>>>> course this presumes the boat is on the trailer and not in the
water.

> You

>>>> need some kind of gin pole, which can be made of two by fours.
Some

> have

>>>> used two 2 X 4's set up like an upside down "V".  Find a way to
brace

> the

>>>> foot of the gin pole(s) on the deck and then connect the aft lower

> shrouds

>>>> to the top on the pole(s).  Then connect the winch line to the top
of

> the

>>>> gin pole and lower/raise away.  You don't need the other three guys
and

>>> you

>>>> get to drink the cold twelve pack by yourself.   8-)

>>>> 

>>>> Slim

>>>> 

>>>> On 7/29/03 7:41 AM, "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>> Anne,

>>>>> A cold twelve pack and three guys should be able to lower and
raise

> the

>>>>> mast. I do it all the time. Have two people handle the mast and
one on

>>> the

>>>>> traveler. I use the traveler like a ski tow rope. It also means
that I

>>>>> lower the mast toward the bow and not the stern like those with
the

>>> crane

>>>>> from GB.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Rummy

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>> [Original Message]

>>>>>> From: anima <anima13 at bellsouth.net>

>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>>>>>> Date: 7/29/2003 7:46:34 AM

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  caution  boom fittings

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> The little plastic pieces at the bottom do come out if pried.

>>>>>> there are a few little screws to remove if you look carefully.

>>>>>> After that, the spool slides down ward enough. I could then

>>>>>>  remove the sail. Next I replaced the spool and forestay is

>>>>>> holding all fine. I will have to lower mast ($$) to replace
repaired

>>>>>> sail.

>>>>>> Anne

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>>> From: <FNuttersNY at aol.com>

>>>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:48 PM

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] caution boom fittings

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>>> Anne did you slide the rig of the wire spool tube sail and all?

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