[Rhodes22-list] Link 10

[Wally Buck]

Bill,

My past owner actually had three batteries and he told me he never spent a 
night on board the boat. He had a dedicated starting battery and 2 deep 
cycle. Talk about over kill! I don't know what the heck he was thinking.

I agree with your advice about not needing a dedicated starting battery, I 
don't use one either. I don't have solar panels, the shore charger was much 
less and I have free shore power with my slip. If I ever go to a mooring I 
would go the solar route.

Wally


>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Link 10
>Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:20:17 -0400
>
>Rob,
>
>Need?  Nah.  But if you had one now you might discover you can run that 
>blender as soon as you hook up the Tohatsu.
>
>Here's my reply to Rummy on the same subject a couple of years ago:
>
>Rummy,
>
>I've got the Heart 10/Link 10 also and I love it.  It gives the exact
>information you really want.  For example, your meter tells you you have 
>100
>amp hours in your battery.  Your meter tells you your lights are drawing 10
>amps.  How long can you run the lights before your battery is dead.
>(Hint--the answer is not 10 hours.)  The meter will tell you how long you
>can run the lights.  The manual explains why the answer is not 10 hours.
>
>I read about Rhodes owners creating floating electric sub-stations with
>another battery in every available space.  If they knew how many amps they
>actually used and how fast they replaced them they would know they simply
>don't need all the extra batteries.
>
>My boat is on a mooring.  I have 2 solar panels.  My electric starting
>Tohatsu puts more power back than it uses.  I use as much electricity as I
>want.  I have never had to recharge the batteries outside the system.  The
>Link 10 instantly and continuously tells me the voltage, amperage, amount 
>of
>power currently being used, and a pretty good estimate of how much longer I
>can continue to use the amount of power currently being used.
>
>I never have electrical anxiety.
>
>It's a good system.  My meter is located above the breaker panel--a logical
>location--the sensor must be located near the battery.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rob Lowe
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 8:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
>Bill,
>Thanks so much!  This was exactly what information I was looking for.  Our
>boat has a single battery, no solar panels, and just a voltage meter for
>monitoring battery charge.  It sounds like hooking up the Tohatsu 8 to that
>battery will work.  No need for separate starting battery and the motor 
>will
>keep the battery charged (assuming you run it enough, and if it does go
>dead, use the pull starter).
>
>Down the road (once I pay for a new @#$#$% motor), perhaps add second
>battery (to run the blender) and a solar panel to keep up the charge on
>both.
>
>Do you really need the Link 10?  They're a bit pricey.  Thanks!
>
>Rob
>S/V Getaway
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
>Rob,
>
>I have the electric start Tohatsu 8.  Love it.
>
>I have 2 batteries, linked, on board.  One would be sufficient.  Don't 
>waste
>time or money on a separate "starter" battery.  There is this rope "thingy"
>on top of the electric start Tohatsu.  You'll never need to use it, but I
>tried it once--you pull on it, and the motor starts.  Ask Rummy.  Then your
>motor will put electricity back into the battery and you'll be able to run
>lights and things even if your battery goes "dead".
>
>The motor starts so easily you almost always put more electricity back into
>the battery than you withdrew by starting.
>
>I have 2 batteries, the Tohatsu, and 2 solar panels installed by GB.  No
>regulator.  No problem.  My boat sits on a mooring all summer, in a yard 
>all
>winter.  (I'm in Greenwich, CT.)  I never remove the batteries.  I have
>never used shore power to recharge them.  The batteries lasted for 5 years
>without a single problem.  I will replace them this year.
>
>I have, and recommend, a Link 10 meter.  It lets me know the exact 
>condition
>of the batteries at all times.  I use it every time I come on board.  It 
>has
>saved me a fortune in unneeded extra batteries, regulators, special
>circuits, etc.  Also I don't yell at people who are using what turns out to
>be insignificant amounts of electricity, of which I have more than enough.
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Rob Lowe
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:33 AM
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motors with electric start
>
>
>I'm getting to the point where a new motor might have to be purchased.  
>Took
>the drains out of the gearbox of the old one and a nice, grey material 
>oozed
>out (homogenized oil and water, I assume).  That plus the inoperative
>reverse and the failure to start problem is pushing me towards a new one.  
>I
>was quoted $450 to extend a short shaft into a long shaft.  I've looked at
>the used ones on the various web sites but didn't see anything I really
>cared for.
>
>
>I'm looking at the 8Hp Tohatsu/Nissan.  Question, I'm thinking about the
>electric start feature.  Not so much for starting the motor, but I have no
>charging system on the boat as it is.  I was looking at adding a flexible
>mount solar charger, but the cost of those is about what the electric start
>additional would be.  Any one have an electric start option?  How about
>batteries, wiring, over charge protection, etc.  I've got a battery on 
>board
>now, but it has to be charged though an external charger.  I would also 
>like
>to add more electrical devices in the future (like inverter for a blender,
>got to keep up with Rummy).  Any advice is appreciated!
>
>Rob
>S/V Getaway
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