[Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks

Wed Jun 18 14:20:30 EDT 2003

I've been looking for track cars that I could mount the bimini to for some
time with no luck.

Today I was in the vicinity of a WM and bought the 30" Bimini tracks I wrote
about.  For less than 30 bucks you get the tracks with cars that are tapped
for existing hinges.  Much cheaper than track cars that are intended to work
under load.  Also I won't have to concern moving them around to accommodate
moves of the genoa fairleads.

I expect I'll have to mount them just outboard of the Genoa track.  Not
crazy more stuff up on the gunnel, but looking forward to being able to move
the folded bimini as far forward as possible to clear room for sitting on
the rail.

I hope to get to the project tomorrow.

BB

Bill Berner
191 South Broadway
Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706

v 914 478 2896
f 914 478 3856
e BBerner at optonline.net

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Wally Buck
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:11 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks

MJM,

To clarify - I do not want to install new tracks. My question was; are the 
cars (for Bimini supports) shown in LLoyd's photo still available from GB? 
If not who does stock them?

Thanks,

Wally

>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: <bberner at optonline.net>,"The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 20:34:26 -0400
>
>maybe I am missing something, most people install it on a car on the jib 
>track, you want to put in a new track?
>
>MJM
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:06 PM
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
>
>
> > WM Info for Bimini Track and fittings.
> >
> > Tracks come with slides which should come drilled correctly for deck 
>hinges.
> > Sold in pairs  Both made by Taylor
> >
> > 18" Long Chrome Model # 192965   28.99
> > 30" Long Chrome Model # 192973   25.99
> >
> > No I didn't write it down wrong.  According to the catalog the 30" is
> > cheaper than the 18".
> >
> > They also have track end caps in black or white by taylor
> > Black 460560 2.99
> > White 446023 2.99
> >
> > In what appears to be chrome "Zamak"
> > 436487 8.99
> >
> > Doesn't say if they are sold in pairs, so they probably aren't.
> >
> > I'm almost motivated enough to order them for myself.
> >
> > BB
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Berner
> > 191 South Broadway
> > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> >
> > v 914 478 2896
> > f 914 478 3856
> > e BBerner at optonline.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Wally Buck
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:42 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> >
> > So if I understand correctly the hardware used in the posted pics is no
> > longer available from GB? What a shame I was thinking of breaking down 
>and
> > buying ....
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> > >From: Bill Berner <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 14:29:41 -0400
> > >
> > >Lloyd -
> > >
> > >Don't mind at all.  Didn't realize it was a response to me!  They are 
>great
> > >shots, and I'm jealous.
> > >
> > >Stan apparently doesn't have any more, or is (reasonably) holding them 
>in
> > >reserve for the boats he's building/recycling.
> > >
> > >The alternative seems to be getting "bimini tracks" and slides which 
>are
> > >available from WM and putting more junk on the gunnels.
> > >
> > >Haven't gotten around to it but expect to do so.
> > >
> > >Will post my experience when complete.
> > >
> > >Thanks again for the pix.
> > >
> > >BB
> > >
> > >Bill Berner
> > >191 South Broadway
> > >Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > >
> > >v 914 478 2896
> > >f 914 478 3856
> > >e BBerner at optonline.net
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of lcrowther
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:14 AM
> > >To: New Rhodes22 List
> > >Subject: Fw: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >
> > >Ed,
> > >
> > >I only know that my track width is, or was. standard GB issue.  the 
>reason
> > >I
> > >put the pictures in this list is because Bill Berner asked me about the
> > >cars.  Since there seems to be a general interest or curiosity about
> > >movable
> > >Bimini mounts I am posting the correspondence with Bill before I took 
>the
> > >pictures.  Hope you don't mind, Bill!
> > >
> > >Lloyd
> > >s/v Uhuru II
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "lcrowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > >To: <bberner at optonline.net>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:14 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > >
> > > > The car is made of a black plastic block with a groove on the bottom

>and
> > > > lips at the bottom of the groove sides which will fit under the 
>track.
> > >(You
> > > > have to take off one stop, located at the ends of each the track, to

>fit
> > > > each block onto its track.)  On the top of the block, mounted by two
> > >screws,
> > > > is the same fitting that looks as if it could be positioned on the 
>deck
> > >as
> > >a
> > > > fixed-position Bimini mount.  This fitting, which is screwed to the 
>top
> > >of
> > > > the block, has a slot on top that takes the fitting tongue located 
>at
> > >the
> > > > bottom of the Bimini tubing.  The slot on the top of the fitting 
>that is
> > > > screwed on the top of the block has a screw hole through both sides;

>a
> > >screw
> > > > goes through one hole of this car fitting, through the hole in the
> > >tongue
> > >of
> > > > the Bimini pipe fitting, and through the hole in the other side car
> > >fitting.
> > > > The whole black plastic car unit is apparently made especially for 
>Stan,
> > >he
> > > > had a whole bin full of them in April of 2002.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry this explanation is so convoluted, hope you can figure it out.
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > To: "'lcrowther'" <lcrowther at cox.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:37 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd -
> > > >
> > > > What does the lead car look like?
> > > >
> > > > I can't see how the end fitting on the bimini would mount to any of 
>the
> > > > cars/fittings that are in the WM catalog.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > BB
> > > >
> > > > Bill Berner
> > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > >
> > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: lcrowther [mailto:lcrowther at cox.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:09 AM
> > > > To: bberner at optonline.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > >
> > > > Bill,
> > > >
> > > > Last spring I went down to GB and bought a used Bimini from Stan.  I
> > >also
> > > > bought two (Bimini Mounting?) cars that I mounted on the Genoa lead 
>car
> > > > tracks in front of the Genoa leads.  My track goes well back of my
> > >winches
> > > > and is very long but when I looked at the boats Stan had in for
> > >repair,etc.
> > > > the track layouts came in several configurations.  When my Bimini is
> > >folded
> > > > down I push the Bimini cars forward so the folded down Bimini 
>crosses
> > >the
> > > > cabin roof far enough forward so it does not interfere with the 
>access
> > > > below.  I seldom use my Bimini under sail; under power, in my slip, 
>or
> > >at
> > > > anchor it is great.
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd
> > > > s/v Uhuru II
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bill Berner" <bberner at optonline.net>
> > > > To: <Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:20 PM
> > > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Biminis on tracks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last year we got a bimini from GB.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm interested in mounting it on a track, in the hopes that I'll be 
>able
> > >to
> > > > slide it forward some in order to make it easier to sit up on the
> > >gunnels
> > > > when the boat is heeled over.  As set now it is really in the way, 
>and
> > >also
> > > > a bit in the way of the genoa sheets if the fairleads are set close 
>to
> > >the
> > > > winches.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So my question is - anybody else got theirs on tracks.  Do you use 
>the
> > >genoa
> > > > lead car track, and if so with what hardware.  Do you use a separate
> > >bimini
> > > > track outboard or inboard of the genoa track?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As Rumsfeld said, there are things we know, things we know we don't
> > >know,
> > > > and things we don't know that we don't know.  Applies to me with 
>this
> > > > question.  All help appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Berner
> > > >
> > > > 191 South Broadway
> > > >
> > > > Hastings on Hudson, NY  10706
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > v 914 478 2896
> > > >
> > > > f 914 478 3856
> > > >
> > > > e BBerner at optonline.net
> > > >
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