[Rhodes22-list] RE: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are waiting for more accurate information

[Jim Connolly]

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Jay,

I am interested, but as a newbie to the R-22, I am unsure of the tradeoffs
and benefits.

After adding electric start to the motor, new sails (new 150% genoa and IMF
Mk-I (for now ;-)) and new cabin cushions, I am also over my self-imposed
limit.  :-0

Somebody needs to draw a picture.  I'll start You described a four-sided
sail with a vertical batten.  I had an image in my mind something like the
one on the left, with ~100 SF IMF Mk-I in blue, ~110SF IMF MK-II in red with
the dashed red line a long batten.  Now you say the batten is 30" long?

After drawing it, I see that the batten wouldn't need to be as long as I had
initially pictured in my head.  New mental picture is more like the right,
with short batten further aft and lower.

Is either version even close?

Jim Connolly

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Friedland [mailto:a.jayf@verizon.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:03 AM
> To: rhodes-list@sailnet.net
> Subject: Re: [rhodes-list] New Main Sail - We are waiting for more
> accurate information
>
>
> Ed-
> You're making a lucky guess (NYC born, NJ-bred). I've lost my edge with
> Stan-he offered the demo boat on one of my visits, now I'm the only
> source of info on this sail...can't stand the pressure.
>
> In following debates of Standard vs. IMF over the past few years,
> stiffening the sail has been one of the deep divisions in the boat's
> performance vs. convenience. I'd love to see Steve, Roger, or another
> Standard Mainsail user evaluate it fairly. I'm sure the power of sail
> draft will still make the Standard perform better, but it would be
> interesting to see how much this closes the gap. Stan's designs always
> defy traditional sail controls. He ought to do a manual in his spare
> time on Sail Control with the R22.
>
> The batten itself is about 30" long and really flattens the whole
> mainsail significantly, probably even more significantly as the sail is
> stretched with use. In a conversation with Tom Deliberto, he had his
> gennie designed as a biradial cut to compensate for stretch. He's the
> only one I know that has done this, but reefing and stretch are the two
> things I've seen affect performance. If both factors can be addressed
> this way, I see new main as a big plus. On most other boats without
> furled/protected sails, sail life is typically limited to 4-5 years
> based on use and wind conditions. With the above improvements, sail
> life plus performance, it adds another advantage to the convenience of
> the R22.
>
> However, I'm not sure if I mentioned the CO2 cartridges that are needed
> for the new main.
>
> Did Jim Connolly mention he's waiting on the MK II as the new design?
> Jay
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 09:30 AM, Kroposki wrote:
>
> > Jay,
> > 	I thought you were from New York.  Are you telling us that some
> > guy from Brooklyn snuck one by you? Oh come on now.
> >                                    Ed K
> >
> >
> >
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