[Rhodes22-list] True confessions........topic: woodwork.

[Wally Buck]

Jay,

I use Marize Z Spar Captain Varnish on my all wood Rhodes Bantam. It is 
great stuff. I lurk on a wooden boat forum and it gets great reviews.

Forecast is 68 Sunny 10 - 15 MPH winds. I am off to the lake.
Wally


>From: Jay Friedland <a.jayf@verizon.net>
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>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] True confessions........topic: woodwork.
>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:22:39 -0500
>
>Rummy-
>I must be the fool in the group. Not only did I get the last boat Stan 
>swore he would do with wood trim, but I added teak toe rails the full 
>length, except for midship cleat track. My ladder also has teak rungs, but 
>I also would always rather sail than maintain.
>
>I originally tried Cetol, after oils,etc. but found although it held the 
>season, it didn't look natural-too orange. The spin-off company Armada, has 
>their version-I use the Satin Wood finish, which is more brown, looks 
>greenish grey in the can. It is much closer to teak's natural appearance. 
>I've used it 6 years with minimum touch-up during my 8-9 month season of 
>exposure, only where chafing hits, etc. I've never taken the wood back to 
>bare and unless there's any moisture or natural oil underneath, one or two 
>coats is it with minimal or no sanding. Touch ups are easy to blend in, the 
>grain shows through significantly even though it's a pigment base, which is 
>the UV protection. Like all urethanes, it levels easily, and inexpensive 
>foam brushes work well.
>
>I absolutely love varnish, and I use the Z-spar Captain's Varnish on the 
>tiller with 8-12 coats over West epoxy to seal it (also makes it less 
>subject to cracking from stress). But in our neck, I would never try this 
>outdoors. I actually use a standing garment bag as a drying enclosure. What 
>type of spar varnish did you use? If it works, is easy to apply with good 
>drying conditions, that would be my best choice. Most people don't 
>recommend it on teak because of these factors, plus teak needs to be 
>absolutely stripped of any internal oils with acetone so coatings don't 
>lift, plus touch-ups are a bitch.
>
>Practical Sailors this month changed their focus on testing coatings to 
>best within types because appearance was most people's criteria for what 
>they used, with longevity and ease of application after that. My stuff 
>isn't listed, but hey, that's PS-they have representative products, and 
>used Armada's MC2000 Synthetic, a sealer.
>Jay
>
>
>
>On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 02:07 PM, John Tonjes wrote:
>
>>About two years ago we were all discussing our different methods of taking
>>care of the teak trim and our favorite brands. Some used the traditional
>>teak oil method while others opted for the cetol. I on the other hand 
>>chose
>>to use the WM version of cetol in gloss. I am happy to report that the
>>product is a complete bust. After carefully preparing the wood I applied
>>three layers with tender loving care. In less than a year more than 50% of
>>the product had come off and needed refinishing, but being one that would
>>rather sail than work on the boat I waited another year.
>>I have sanded back down to the original teak and this year I'm putting 
>>four
>>coats of Spar Varnish on it. Last year I replaced the kick plate in the
>>cockpit with a piece of teak that I finished with varnish and after one 
>>year
>>it looks great.
>>I know everyone says not to varnish teak, but it looks great and so far 
>>has
>>held up very well. The varnish I am using has ten times the UV protection
>>that standard varnish has, so that might explain why it's holding up.
>>I was just wondering how the other products are doing that were used?
>>
>>Rummy
>>
>>
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