[Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
thebilge.
Mark Kaynor
mark@kaynor.org
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:59:22 -0500
Bill,
I wish I'd gotten a picture of Raven under her winter cover I could share
with you. I inherited our tarp system from Gary Sanford, Raven's PO.
We use the mast as a ridge pole w/ a 2x4 support at the mast step. We then
cover everything w/ a (maybe 15'x25'? - need to measure to be sure) canvas
tarp. Then we hang a bunch of 5 gal. plastic jugs half full of water around
the perimeter, 6 per side. Finally, we tie the ends closed. This allows us
to untie a single line at the aft end to have access to the cockpit and
cabin. I've found the water jugs to be way better than using lines or
bungees - no metal ends to flog, the lines are always taut, the canvas is
always stretched nicely w/o low spots.
Mark Kaynor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Effros" <bill@effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
thebilge.
> Gil,
>
> That's a nice tarp. The ones I saw shredded were all the blue ones. The
> shrink wrapped boats also had no problems.
>
> I put a cinder block under the aft end of the trailer to keep it from
> kicking up if too much weight shifts to the stern. A couple of boats
> smashed their sterns this winter because they did not take that
precaution.
>
> Also, some boats with tarps were damaged by bungee cord flogging. Along
> with all our snow, we got a lot of wind.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eaton, Gil" <GEaton@IKON.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
> bilge.
>
>
> Hi Bill,
> You make me feel better getting the hd truck tarp from Northern
> Tool. It's a 12x24 Tarp held up with 1.5" pvc pipes, I think it was a
good
> idea for this year, it's still in good condition. Picture attached.
> gil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill@effros.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:35 AM
> To: bberner@optonline.net; The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to
> the bilge.
>
>
> Bill,
>
> I feel better.
>
> I went to my boat 2 days ago and found the same problem, only worse. I had
> an inch thick sheet of ice in the cabin and 2 inches thick in the cockpit.
>
> I made 2 mistakes I know of.
>
> 1. I haven't been checking the boat regularly as I have done in past
> winters.
> 2. I didn't leave the boat very high at the bow on the trailer as I have
in
> the past.
>
> Most of the water has thawed over the past couple of days. (The bilge is
> still a block of ice.) Water got everywhere.
>
> We have never had a winter like this since I've had my R22. I've never
had
> even the slightest problem in the past.
>
> I think snow + rain is the problem. All the drain holes were plugged
with
> ice, so at some point the water had nowhere to go. With frozen snow all
> over the place, the rain wasn't channeled anywhere. It puddled. Froze.
> Thawed. Seeped.
>
> Boats with tarps did no better than ours. Many tarps were shredded.
There
> was a lot of damage to things holding up the tarps. Some boats with tarps
> were hurt on their trailers because snow in the tarp put weight in
> unexpected places.
>
> Bruce told me his boat did not suffer water damage. Parked without a tarp
> 25 feet away from mine. I think his bow might have been a bit higher than
> mine.
>
> So I thought it was just me, and I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for
> letting me know I'm not alone on this one.
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Berner" <bberner@optonline.net>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:00 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] How does all that water find it's way to the
bilge.
>
>
> It's finally been warm the last few days here in the North East, so I
headed
> off to my boat club to check up on my boat.
>
> I must confess that I never covered it at the end of the season last
year -
> just put it on the trailer, parked it where they told me, took off the
> cushions, and expensive stuff from the cabin, and took down the genoa.
>
> Went back to check things out once before all the snow kicked in.
>
> Yesterday's inspection was pretty good with one GLARING exception.
>
> Upon checking the bilge I found water nearly up to the underside of the
> cabin sole. Now the boats bow is higher than the stern on the trailer,
and
> when I looked at the carpet in the aft end of the cabin, I found it was
wet.
> Apparently water had even soaked through the sole into the carpet back
> there.
>
> I have a deck plate in the hole for the nicro vent on the bow.
>
> I also found some, but not an alarming amount of water in the lazarette.
>
> There are no signs in the cabin of water having come in from above decks.
>
> The boat is leaning a bit to starboard on the trailer, and the starboard
> seat drain is stopped up. The port drain is clear.
>
> There was no water in the cockpit. The cockpit drain is clear.
>
> So how did that volume of water find its way into the bilge?
>
> Any ideas? Theories and experiences welcomed.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Bill Berner
> 191 South Broadway
> Hastings on Hudson, NY 10706
>
> v 914 478 2896
> f 914 478 3856
> e BBerner@optonline.net
>
>
>
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