[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 14 (Bantam)

Wed May 7 11:58:14 EDT 2003

Patricia,

Actually there are two known Rhodes Bantam owners on this list. I am one of 
the owners and have psoted pics a couple of times. My laptop doesn't have 
the pics but my Bantam is all wood and built in 63. It sits on a trailer in 
my garage and gets little use now that I have the R22. The Bantam is a great 
little boat and was designed by Rhodes in 47 (I think).  I have sailed in 
the sounds of NC a couple of times with the Bantam. as well as local East TN 
rivers and lakes; it turns heads every time!

Patricia you mention you have a wood mast, is the hull wooden as well? My 
hull, tiller, rudder and boom are wooden. However I have an aluminum mast 
with spreaders. I also have an 85 pound center board that utilizes a wooden 
wheel and pully to gain mechanical advantage from raising from the helm. The 
fiberglass Bantams don't have this arrangement and use a much lighter CB.

Razz also owns and is restoring a very old Bantam. I haven't seem him post 
in a while so I am not sure if he is still out there......

Welcome to the list!

Wally, Watts Bar TN

>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>Reply-To: kroposki at innova.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 14
>Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:34:47 -0400
>
>Patricia:
>	There are a couple of Rhodes 19's on the list, and one 32, but
>you are the first 14 that has identified herself.  Welcome on behalf of
>your neighbors on Lake Hartwell.
>                               Ed K
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Patricia M
>Myler
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 3:16 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodies in Canton GA and Atlanta!!
>
>I've been lurking the past few weeks..I am a partial-Rhodie I guess...I
>have
>a Rhodes Bantam 14 (hull number 1166) with a wood mast, no less.
>Allatoona
>is a great power boat/skidoo lake, but you dont see that many sailboats
>there.  Lanier, although farther away, has great wind, huge shoreline,
>and
>areas/marinas that are predominantly sailboat oriented..check out
>Aqualand,
>Sunrise Cove and Holiday Marinas (with Aqualand as hands down majority
>sailboats).  Also, there is an active group that sails out of Lake
>Lanier
>marinas called Barefoot Sailing Club that hosts small sailing regattas,
>cookouts, etc. Dont know much about Hartwell--it is much more of a drive
>from Canton.  I've seakayaked there and the power boaters seem pretty
>respectful, which was not the case when I tried to sail on Allatoona.
>Also,
>if you are into trailering your boat to the Georgia coast, there is a
>fantastic sailing area called St. Simons Island (Golden Isles
>Marina--owned
>by Barney Riley).  It's about 3 1/2 hours from Atlanta--well worth the
>drive
>   Good luck on your interview--this is not that bad a place to live now
>that
>we have Yankees and mid-westerners to civilize it!!  PS--I am a native
>Atlantan, but I do NOT chew tobacco, do NOT go to dirt track stock car
>races
>  am NOT married to my older brother, do NOT have my washing machine on
>my
>front porch, do NOT eat possums or other road kill, do NOT live in a
>trailer
>and truly do NOT(for real) believe in the Rebel flag and what it
>symbolizes
>to some of the inbreds that live at the bottom of our food chain.   I DO
>however say "Y'all" a lot, even after living in Manhattan for a year.
>
>
>
>PPS  To all Y'all....what is the KY Lakes?
>
>Thanks....Trish Myler   call me if you need directions to Lake Lanier
>marinas, etc(404) 422-6902
>
>
>
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>Date: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 11:00:06
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>Subject: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 232, Issue 1
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>1. Re: sailing dinghy (Bill Effros)
>
>2. Re: different subject - The Airline Mess (Wally Buck)
>
>3. info. (Larry Abbott)
>
>4. Re: info. (Michael Meltzer)
>
>5. RE: info. (John Tonjes)
>
>6. Re: different subject - The Airline Mess (brad haslett)
>
>7. test sail (Marc Shulman)
>
>8. SARS Update (brad haslett)
>
>9. Re: SARS Update (ellner)
>
>10. UPS update (Mary Lou Troy)
>
>11. Re: info. (anima)
>
>12. Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (Roger Pihlaja)
>
>13. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (Rik Sandberg)
>
>14. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (ellner)
>
>15. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (anima)
>
>16. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (Roger Pihlaja)
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>17. RE: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (Kroposki)
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>18. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (Roger Pihlaja)
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>19. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (brad haslett)
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>20. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (John Tonjes)
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>21. Re: Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area (John Tonjes)
>
>22. RE: UPS update (Kroposki)
>
>23. RE: SARS Update (Kroposki)
>
>24. marine head (SVTRITON at aol.com)
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>Message: 1
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:21:22 -0500
>
>From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>Message-ID: <001601c31322$65733250$1c05930a at BILL>
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>
>Brad,
>
>
>
>My motorized dinghy was just an afterthought. I had a $99 trolling motor
>in
>the basement, and a small -- the smallest size in WM -- 12 volt battery
>in
>the sunporch. Putting them together I was surprised they did so well. My
>boat is 1/2 mile from where I launch my dinghy. I steer the dinghy by
>leaning -- it will go in the direction opposite the lean -- for
>amusement.
>The amount of electricity used is insignificant. The trip takes maybe 5
>minutes. At first I was recharging the battery after every use. Then I
>realized that was completely unnecessary. I don't use it that often,
>because
>I prefer to row. I charge the battery at the beginning of the season and
>leave it at that. If the battery seems to be running low I will probably
>recharge from the batteries on board -- with 2 batteries on a Rhodes you
>have much more electricity than you need.
>
>
>
>Bill Effros
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: brad haslett
>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:17 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
>
>
>
>
>
>Bill,
>
>
>
>Walker Bay just came out with a RIB/hard dinghy combo
>
>(its on their website) that looks attractive. The
>
>main attraction is the additional stability. Like all
>
>things nautical, dinghy choice involves compromise.
>
>The dinks that sail well (Optimist, Mirror) don't make
>
>the best tenders and I doubt the Fatty Knees/Walker
>
>Bay/prams that row/motor well sail all that easily.
>
>Question: what size trolling motor/battery combo do
>
>you have and how many hours of service do you get
>
>between charges?
>
>
>
>Brad
>
>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
> > Brad,
>
> >
>
> > I've been using the 8 ft. Walker Bay for the past 3
>
> > years, and it is a good value for the money. I paid
>
> > $400 for mine, brand new. I think they cost a
>
> > little more now.
>
> >
>
> > I'm on a mooring and like to row out to it. The
>
> > Walker Bay rows OK, not as well as purpose built
>
> > rowing dinghies, much better than inflatables.
>
> > >From a Rhodes it's a piece of cake to get into and
>
> > out of the dinghy--I do it all the time--in the
>
> > dark--in small craft warnings.
>
> >
>
> > I put a small electric motor on it out of curiosity,
>
> > and it has no trouble pushing along 2 adults and the
>
> > boat. Both the electric motor and battery easily
>
> > store inside an R-22 lazarette.
>
> >
>
> > I've towed the dinghy behind the R-22--no problem.
>
> > The dinghy has positive flotation.
>
> >
>
> > The sailing option looks like a lot of trouble for a
>
> > little bit of fun.
>
> >
>
> > The 8 ft. size fits easily in the back of a pick-up,
>
> > is easy for 1 person to lift on dry land, has a
>
> > little wheel in the skeg that allows one person to
>
> > move it around on land. As a single-hander I have
>
> > been very happy with it.
>
> >
>
> > The 10 ft. size would be useful for moving more
>
> > stuff or people. The 8 ft. is difficult to row with
>
> > 2 people on board.
>
> >
>
> > Bill Effros
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: brad haslett
>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 10:53 AM
>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] sailing dinghy
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I'm in the market for a dink (for the S2, not the
>
> > R-22) and have pretty much decided on a hard plastic
>
> > model like the Walker Bay or Fatty Knees. Does
>
> > anyone
>
> > on the list have any experience with either of these
>
> > and especially with adding the sail kit. Honda has
>
> > a
>
> > new 2hp air-cooled 4-cycle engine available at 28
>
> > pounds. About an 8 to 10 foot dink that will move
>
> > with 2hp and possibly a light wind is what "I think"
>
> > I
>
> > want.
>
> >
>
> > Brad Haslett
>
> >
>
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>Message: 2
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>Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:25:07 -0400
>
>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
>I didn't read the whole thing but I say if an airline(s) is going under
>let
>
>them. If laws were broken charge those responsible. If they didn't break
>any
>
>
>laws then I am not sure about the "street thug" comment. If stock
>holders
>
>support the outrageous pay of upper management then they only have
>
>themselves to blame.
>
>
>
>I don't know what the answer is but the government needs to get out of
>the
>
>"bail out" business. Also CEO Level pay is way to high with no end in
>sight.
>
>
>
>
>
>Wally
>
>
>
> >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
>
> >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
> >
>
> >The Axis of Excess: By Joe Brancatelli
>
> >
>
> >April 24, 2003 -- You can't watch the unfolding saga
>
> >of corporate greed and malfeasance in the executive
>
> >suites of the Big Six airlines without immediately
>
> >thinking of snappy joke lines.
>
> >
>
> >You know, stuff like Monkey See, Monkey Steal. Flying
>
> >Pigs at the Trough. Or, my personal favorite:
>
> >Barbarians at the Boarding Gate.
>
> >
>
> >But this is not funny. While the greedy, amoral men
>
> >who run the nation's largest carriers are looting
>
> >their airlines, shareholder equity is being destroyed,
>
> >good jobs are being lost, surviving rank-and-filers
>
> >must bear draconian pay cuts, taxpayer dollars are
>
> >being squandered and the nation is watching a huge
>
> >portion of its airline infrastructure disintegrate.
>
> >
>
> >It is a disgusting display. The buccaneers who run the
>
> >nation's Big Six carriers are the American equivalent
>
> >of the street mobs who looted the Baghdad Museum of
>
> >its cultural treasures.
>
> >
>
> >There's no difference between Delta chief executive
>
> >Leo Mullin, who paid himself $100,000 in cash bonuses
>
> >for every $100 million the carrier lost last year, and
>
> >a street thug who stole a priceless Sumerian pot from
>
> >the Baghdad Museum. United chief executive Glenn
>
> >Tilton, who lived in an $18,000-a-month condo on the
>
> >company tab while the airline was hemorrhaging $20
>
> >million a day during the winter, is no
>
> >less reprehensible than the looter who carried
>
> >Babylonian treasures out of the broken front doors of
>
> >the Baghdad Museum.
>
> >
>
> >Mullin, Tilton, Continental bully-in-chief Gordon
>
> >Bethune, the current roster of fools who run Northwest
>
> >and US Airways and even American chairman Don Carty,
>
> >who these days looks more like a lost soul than a
>
> >master corporate schemer, are all the same. They dress
>
> >better than Baghdad street looters, but their
>
> >mentality is the same. They are thieves.
>
> >
>
> >The men who are running the Big Six into the corporate
>
> >grave form a repugnant Axis of Excess. Nothing matters
>
> >to them except lining their pockets and their
>
> >retirement portfolios. The Axis of Excess has no sense
>
> >of personal shame, no sense of fiduciary
>
> >responsibility and absolutely no agenda except cashing
>
> >out.
>
> >
>
> >In case your attention has been diverted by the war in
>
> >Iraq or the spreading SARS epidemic, let me give you a
>
> >brief carrier-by-carrier recap of what has been
>
> >learned as the Big Six have filed their proxy
>
> >statements, 10-Ks, annual reports and other required
>
> >Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) documents.
>
> >
>
> >AMERICAN AIRLINES American's parent, AMR, lost $3.5
>
> >billion last yearand yesterday it reported a $1
>
> >billion first-quarter loss. After weeks of
>
> >negotiations, promises that executives would share in
>
> >sacrifices and threats of a bankruptcy filing, the
>
> >airline secured $1.8 billion in annual concessions
>
> >from pilots, mechanics and flight attendants.
>
> >
>
> >Then the agreements imploded when American admitted in
>
> >delayed SEC filings that it had shielded some of the
>
> >pensions of the airline's top 45 executives from the
>
> >effects of a bankruptcy filing. The top six
>
> >executives were also offered "retention bonuses" of
>
> >nearly twice their base pay to stay with the airline.
>
> >Earlier this week, Carty cancelled the retention-bonus
>
> >plan and apologized for misleading the unions, but
>
> >he didn't repeal the trust that protects the executive
>
> >pensions nor did he apologize for allowing the
>
> >executive booty in the first place.
>
> >
>
> >Ironically, American has traditionally paid its top
>
> >executives less than most other airlines and the newly
>
> >disclosed perks pale in comparison to the lush
>
> >programs offered to top officials of the other
>
> >carriers.
>
> >
>
> >CONTINENTAL AIRLINES After rashly promising that
>
> >Continental would be in the black by last year's
>
> >second quarter, the airline reported losses in excess
>
> >of $450 million in 2002. Last week it reported a
>
> >first-quarter loss of $221 million, sharply higher
>
> >than last year's first-quarter loss of $166 million.
>
> >The airline now admits there is no chance for profit
>
> >this year or 2004, either. How has Continental
>
> >management reacted to the huge--and, to them,
>
> >unexpected--losses?
>
> >
>
> >Well, Bethune gave himself a pay package of about $7.6
>
> >million last year, more than 82 percent above his 2001
>
> >compensation. Along with stock options and other
>
> >perks, Bethune's 2002 compensation was $11.9
>
> >million. The airline's other top executives were
>
> >proportionately rewarded.
>
> >
>
> >DELTA AIR LINES I detailed the lavish awards made to
>
> >Delta's top five executives in a column posted last
>
> >month:
>
> >
>
> ><
>
> >http://www.zyworld.com/brancatelli/bf2003/branc032703.htm>
>
> >.
>
> >
>
> >But just to recap: The carrier has lost $2.5 billion
>
> >in the last two fiscal years, including $1.3 billion
>
> >last year, when Mullin paid himself a $1.4 million
>
> >cash bonus. The excesses at Delta led Congress
>
> >to write some minimal rules about executive payouts
>
> >into its latest airline bailout package, but Mullin
>
> >and crew seem blind to the rebuke.
>
> >
>
> >After taking a cosmetic pay cut last month, Mullin
>
> >defended the airline's egregious pay packets and
>
> >"retention" bonuses, claiming he needed to keep the
>
> >executive team together. In other words, an airline
>
> >that lost $466 million in this year's first
>
> >quarter--or the equivalent of more than $5 million a
>
> >day--just can't afford to lose the crack
>
> >executives who are responsible for the carrier's
>
> >alarming cash burn.
>
> >
>
> >NORTHWEST AIRLINES Northwest was long ago looted by
>
> >the departed Al Cheechi and by current chairman Gary
>
> >Wilson. During the 1990s, they funneled tens of
>
> >millions annually out of Northwest to their private
>
> >companies, claiming the payments were personal
>
> >management fees. New management is no less abusive,
>
> >however. The carrier lost $798 million last year, yet
>
> >chief executive Richard Anderson paid himself a cash
>
> >bonus of 50 percent of his annual salary of $500,000.
>
> >He also received a retention bonus of stock worth
>
> >almost $2 million more. Northwest also paid out
>
> >millions in retention bonuses to dozens of other top
>
> >managers. This week, a Northwest filing with the SEC
>
> >revealed that former Northwest chief financial officer
>
> >Mickey Foret (former Continental executive) has been
>
> >hired as a consultant. Foret was paid an up-front fee
>
> >of $240,000 and he draws a monthly stipend of $80,000
>
> >through December, 2004. By the way, last week
>
> >Northwest reported a first-quarter loss of $396
>
> >million, more than double last year's first-quarter
>
> >loss of $171 million. It is also negotiating with its
>
> >labor unions and rank-and- file workers, demanding
>
> >almost $1 billion a year in concessions.
>
> >
>
> >UNITED AIRLINES United Airlines paid new chief
>
> >executive Glenn Tilton nearly $12 million to join the
>
> >sinking ship last fall. He promptly ensconced himself
>
> >in an $18,000-a-month condo on the company expense
>
> >account. Since his arrival, the airline has filed for
>
> >bankruptcy and reported a 2002 loss of more than $3
>
> >billion. His recovery plan for the carrier has been
>
> >ridiculed by the government agency that administered
>
> >the 2001 loan-guarantee program, United's
>
> >bankruptcy-court judge and virtually any analyst that
>
> >has examined it. He is also paying the McKinsey
>
> >consulting firm a monthly fee of about $1 million to
>
> >help
>
> >him develop a carrier-within-a-carrier even though
>
> >United has already failed with an earlier attempt to
>
> >create a low-fare unit. Meanwhile, United employees,
>
> >who once owned 55 percent of the carrier in exchange
>
> >for massive wage and benefit concessions granted in
>
> >the 1990s, have lost all their equity. They have also
>
> >been forced to accept billions more in concessions as
>
> >United used the shield of bankruptcy court to break or
>
> >renegotiate their contracts. Of course, all this comes
>
> >against the backdrop of the tens of millions former
>
> >United boss Steve Wolf paid himself while he ran the
>
> >company.
>
> >
>
> >US AIRWAYS US Airways was driven into bankruptcy by
>
> >the aforementioned Wolf and his team of cronies. They
>
> >paid themselves hundreds of millions of dollars during
>
> >their disastrous six-year regime. They subsequently
>
> >retired, but not before the airline paid out $35
>
> >million in lump-sum retirement benefits to Wolf,
>
> >former chief executive Rakesh Gangwal and Larry Nagin,
>
> >the airline's former top legal official. After
>
> >declaring bankruptcy, the airline terminated its
>
> >pilot's pension fund.
>
> >
>
> >Retired US Airways pilots now face pension cuts in the
>
> >neighborhood of 70 percent. Meanwhile, the new
>
> >management team continues to reward itself lavishly.
>
> >The current chief executive, David Siegel, received
>
> >2002 compensation of $533,000 in salary, a cash bonus
>
> >of $750,000 and more than $160,000 in other
>
> >compensation. Other notable figures in the airline's
>
> >SEC filings: US Airways paid Siegel $68,000 in moving
>
> >expenses last year. The new chief financial officer,
>
> >Neil Cohen,received $40,640 in moving expenses. That's
>
> >about the same amount a senior flight attendant at US
>
> >Airways now earns.
>
> >
>
> >One final note. Remember that 2001 taxpayer-funded
>
> >airline bailout of $4.5 billion? Hawaiian Airlines
>
> >received about $30 million of it, but
>
> >that didn't help the carrier avoid a bankruptcy filing
>
> >last month.
>
> >
>
> >Boeing, which is one of Hawaiian's biggest creditors,
>
> >wants the carrier's management removed.
>
> >
>
> >Boeing claims Hawaiian's management paid out more than
>
> >$25 million via a tender offer last year as a "reward"
>
> >to shareholders. In a filing with the bankruptcy
>
> >court, Boeing adds that members of Hawaiian's
>
> >management and their affiliates received more than 69
>
> >percent of the $25 million tender. In other words,
>
> >Boeing believes Hawaiian's management personally
>
> >pocketed more than half of the $30 million in
>
> >taxpayer grants.
>
> >
>
> >What do you think? I'd like to know. Contact me at
>
> >JBrancatelli at aol.com.
>
> >
>
> >Joe Brancatelli is editor and publisher of
>
> >JoeSentMe.com, a Web site for business travelers. He
>
> >is also the former executive editor of Frequent Flyer
>
> >magazine, travel advisor of Travel Holiday and
>
> >contributing editor to Travel + Leisure. He can be
>
> >reached at travel at usatoday.com.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >__________________________________
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>Message: 3
>
>Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 11:41:25 -0400
>
>From: "Larry Abbott" <laabbott at cushing.org>
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <fc.000f7ed30095d2e3000f7ed30095d2e3.95d2e9 at cushing.org>
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>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>
>
>I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks, Larry
>
>Abbott
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>Message: 4
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:21 -0400
>
>From: "Michael Meltzer" <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <003e01c31323$583187d0$34f820c0 at ix1x1000>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
>
>You have been signed uppped.
>
>
>
>MJM
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Larry Abbott" <laabbott at cushing.org>
>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:41 AM
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
>Larry
>
> > Abbott
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
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> >
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> >
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>
>Message: 5
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:44:09 -0400
>
>From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <410-2200351516449335 at earthlink.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>
>Larry
>
>
>
>Well, it looks like you made the trip to the wacky world of Rhodies
>
>successfully. Welcome to the list.
>
>
>
>Rummy
>
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
>
> > From: Larry Abbott <laabbott at cushing.org>
>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Date: 5/5/2003 11:28:44 AM
>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
> >
>
> > I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
>Larry
>
> > Abbott
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
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>
>Message: 6
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
>
>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The Airline Mess
>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <20030505172851.20359.qmail at web41505.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
>
>Wally,
>
>
>
>Actually, if one of the big airlines DID go under it
>
>would solve a lot of problems for the ones that are
>
>left. I have friends at all of them so its not
>
>something I want to see happen but it probably needs
>
>to happen. The 9/11 bailout loans/payments were a
>
>"feel good" solution that may have been necessary at
>
>the time to keep the country going psycologically but
>
>is not a long term solution. Some of the companies
>
>that held their hand out were plain disgusting (I
>
>won't mention names). SouthWest is the only
>
>consistantly profitable airline but not for the
>
>reasons most people think. SWA is heaviliy unionized
>
>and pays very well. They differ in that their
>
>business model is more efficient and their employees
>
>and equipment are used more productively. The cheap
>
>labor costs that the 1978 De-regulation bill was
>
>supposed to bring has not spawned a single surviving
>
>airline that hasn't gone through bankruptcy (if you're
>
>thinking of Jet Blue, its too soon to make a
>
>judgement, they haven't started making payments on
>
>their French jets yet). The new reality of the
>
>marketplace is that SouthWest style service may seem
>
>like First Class compared to being shoe-horned into a
>
>regional jet. The good times were fun while they
>
>lasted. Long live freight!
>
>
>
>Brad
>
>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I didn't read the whole thing but I say if an
>
> > airline(s) is going under let
>
> > them. If laws were broken charge those responsible.
>
> > If they didn't break any
>
> > laws then I am not sure about the "street thug"
>
> > comment. If stock holders
>
> > support the outrageous pay of upper management then
>
> > they only have
>
> > themselves to blame.
>
> >
>
> > I don't know what the answer is but the government
>
> > needs to get out of the
>
> > "bail out" business. Also CEO Level pay is way to
>
> > high with no end in sight.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Wally
>
> >
>
> > >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
> > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] different subject - The
>
> > Airline Mess
>
> > >Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
> > >
>
> > >The Axis of Excess: By Joe Brancatelli
>
> > >
>
> > >April 24, 2003 -- You can't watch the unfolding
>
> > saga
>
> > >of corporate greed and malfeasance in the executive
>
> > >suites of the Big Six airlines without immediately
>
> > >thinking of snappy joke lines.
>
> > >
>
> > >You know, stuff like Monkey See, Monkey Steal.
>
> > Flying
>
> > >Pigs at the Trough. Or, my personal favorite:
>
> > >Barbarians at the Boarding Gate.
>
> > >
>
> > >But this is not funny. While the greedy, amoral men
>
> > >who run the nation's largest carriers are looting
>
> > >their airlines, shareholder equity is being
>
> > destroyed,
>
> > >good jobs are being lost, surviving rank-and-filers
>
> > >must bear draconian pay cuts, taxpayer dollars are
>
> > >being squandered and the nation is watching a huge
>
> > >portion of its airline infrastructure disintegrate.
>
> > >
>
> > >It is a disgusting display. The buccaneers who run
>
> > the
>
> > >nation's Big Six carriers are the American
>
> > equivalent
>
> > >of the street mobs who looted the Baghdad Museum of
>
> > >its cultural treasures.
>
> > >
>
> > >There's no difference between Delta chief executive
>
> > >Leo Mullin, who paid himself $100,000 in cash
>
> > bonuses
>
> > >for every $100 million the carrier lost last year,
>
> > and
>
> > >a street thug who stole a priceless Sumerian pot
>
> > from
>
> > >the Baghdad Museum. United chief executive Glenn
>
> > >Tilton, who lived in an $18,000-a-month condo on
>
> > the
>
> > >company tab while the airline was hemorrhaging $20
>
> > >million a day during the winter, is no
>
> > >less reprehensible than the looter who carried
>
> > >Babylonian treasures out of the broken front doors
>
> > of
>
> > >the Baghdad Museum.
>
> > >
>
> > >Mullin, Tilton, Continental bully-in-chief Gordon
>
> > >Bethune, the current roster of fools who run
>
> > Northwest
>
> > >and US Airways and even American chairman Don
>
> > Carty,
>
> > >who these days looks more like a lost soul than a
>
> > >master corporate schemer, are all the same. They
>
> > dress
>
> > >better than Baghdad street looters, but their
>
> > >mentality is the same. They are thieves.
>
> > >
>
> > >The men who are running the Big Six into the
>
> > corporate
>
> > >grave form a repugnant Axis of Excess. Nothing
>
> > matters
>
> > >to them except lining their pockets and their
>
> > >retirement portfolios. The Axis of Excess has no
>
> > sense
>
> > >of personal shame, no sense of fiduciary
>
> > >responsibility and absolutely no agenda except
>
> > cashing
>
> > >out.
>
> > >
>
> > >In case your attention has been diverted by the war
>
> > in
>
> > >Iraq or the spreading SARS epidemic, let me give
>
> > you a
>
> > >brief carrier-by-carrier recap of what has been
>
> > >learned as the Big Six have filed their proxy
>
> > >statements, 10-Ks, annual reports and other
>
> > required
>
> > >Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) documents.
>
> > >
>
> > >AMERICAN AIRLINES American's parent, AMR, lost $3.5
>
> > >billion last yearand yesterday it reported a $1
>
> > >billion first-quarter loss. After weeks of
>
> > >negotiations, promises that executives would share
>
> > in
>
> > >sacrifices and threats of a bankruptcy filing, the
>
> > >airline secured $1.8 billion in annual concessions
>
> > >from pilots, mechanics and flight attendants.
>
> > >
>
> > >Then the agreements imploded when American admitted
>
> > in
>
> > >delayed SEC filings that it had shielded some of
>
> > the
>
> > >pensions of the airline's top 45 executives from
>
> > the
>
> > >effects of a bankruptcy filing. The top six
>
> > >executives were also offered "retention bonuses" of
>
> > >nearly twice their base pay to stay with the
>
> > airline.
>
> > >Earlier this week, Carty cancelled the
>
> > retention-bonus
>
> > >plan and apologized for misleading the unions, but
>
> > >he didn't repeal the trust that protects the
>
> > executive
>
> > >pensions nor did he apologize for allowing the
>
> > >executive booty in the first place.
>
> > >
>
> > >Ironically, American has traditionally paid its top
>
> > >executives less than most other airlines and the
>
> > newly
>
> > >disclosed perks pale in comparison to the lush
>
> > >programs offered to top officials of the other
>
> > >carriers.
>
> > >
>
> > >CONTINENTAL AIRLINES After rashly promising that
>
> > >Continental would be in the black by last year's
>
> > >second quarter, the airline reported losses in
>
> > excess
>
> > >of $450 million in 2002. Last week it reported a
>
> > >first-quarter loss of $221 million, sharply higher
>
> > >than last year's first-quarter loss of $166
>
> > million.
>
> > >The airline now admits there is no chance for
>
> > profit
>
> > >this year or 2004, either. How has Continental
>
> > >management reacted to the huge--and, to them,
>
> > >unexpected--losses?
>
> > >
>
> > >Well, Bethune gave himself a pay package of about
>
> > $7.6
>
> > >million last year, more than 82 percent above his
>
> > 2001
>
> > >compensation. Along with stock options and other
>
> > >perks, Bethune's 2002 compensation was $11.9
>
> > >million. The airline's other top executives were
>
> > >proportionately rewarded.
>
> > >
>
> > >DELTA AIR LINES I detailed the lavish awards made
>
> > to
>
> > >Delta's top five executives in a column posted last
>
> > >month:
>
> > >
>
> > ><
>
> >
>
> >http://www.zyworld.com/brancatelli/bf2003/branc032703.htm>
>
> > >.
>
> > >
>
> > >But just to recap: The carrier has lost $2.5
>
> > billion
>
> > >in the last two fiscal years, including $1.3
>
> > billion
>
> > >last year, when Mullin paid himself a $1.4 million
>
> > >cash bonus. The excesses at Delta led Congress
>
> > >to write some minimal rules about executive payouts
>
> > >into its latest airline bailout package, but Mullin
>
> > >and crew seem blind to the rebuke.
>
> > >
>
> > >After taking a cosmetic pay cut last month, Mullin
>
> > >defended the airline's egregious pay packets and
>
> > >"retention" bonuses, claiming he needed to keep the
>
> > >executive team together. In other words, an airline
>
> > >that lost $466 million in this year's first
>
> > >quarter--or the equivalent of more than $5 million
>
> > a
>
> > >day--just can't afford to lose the crack
>
> > >executives who are responsible for the carrier's
>
> > >alarming cash burn.
>
> > >
>
> > >NORTHWEST AIRLINES Northwest was long ago looted by
>
> > >the departed Al Cheechi and by current chairman
>
> > Gary
>
> > >Wilson. During the 1990s, they funneled tens of
>
> > >millions annually out of Northwest to their private
>
> > >companies, claiming the payments were personal
>
> > >management fees. New management is no less abusive,
>
> > >however. The carrier lost $798 million last year,
>
> > yet
>
> >
>
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 7
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:43:21 -0500
>
>From: Marc Shulman <marc.shulman at utoronto.ca>
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] test sail
>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
>Message-ID: <l03130305badc607d407b@[128.100.83.131]>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>I would like to test sail a Rhodes 22. Is anybody in the area near
>
>Toronto, Canada or Falmouth, Massachusetts willing to take me out for a
>
>short sail and answer questions about the boat?
>
>Marc Shulman
>
>
>
>Dr. Marc Shulman
>
>Professor
>
>Immunology Department
>
>Medical Sciences Building, Room 4368
>
>University of Toronto
>
>Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5S 1A8
>
>Tel: (416) 978 6730
>
>Fax: (416) 978 1938
>
>E-mail: marc.shulman at utoronto.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 8
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>
>Message-ID: <20030505205852.45569.qmail at web41503.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
>We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
>
>reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
>
>parents in China followed the party line (read the
>
>newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
>
>Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
>
>phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
>
>symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
>
>center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
>
>with her sister and parents the following story was
>
>told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
>
>who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
>
>my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
>
>parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
>
>how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
>
>to English).
>
>
>
>Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
>
>
>
>No, I feel fine.
>
>
>
>But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
>
>
>
>No, I feel fine.
>
>
>
>Does your stomach hurt?
>
>
>
>No, Mom, I feel fine!
>
>
>
>You don't hurt anywhere?
>
>
>
>No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
>
>
>
>We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
>
>this issue.
>
>
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>__________________________________
>
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>
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>
>
>Message: 9
>
>Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:37:50 -0500
>
>From: ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.1.20030505173522.00bb3ae8 at pop.pressenter.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
>
>Brad: we have friends whose grandchildren WERE in China & they were very
>
>
>anxious until the little grandbabies arrived safe & sound----and
>SARS-less,
>
>in the US (the concern was primarily that if they did somehow contract
>
>SARS, they could only be treated at a CHINESE hospital!!!!) Anyway, the
>
>story has a happy ending......no one's sick, etc.......Mary (I'd wait,
>too!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 01:58 PM 5/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
>
> >reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
>
> >parents in China followed the party line (read the
>
> >newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
>
> >Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
>
> >phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
>
> >symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
>
> >center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
>
> >with her sister and parents the following story was
>
> >told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
>
> >who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
>
> >my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
>
> >parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
>
> >how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
>
> >to English).
>
> >
>
> >Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
>
> >
>
> >No, I feel fine.
>
> >
>
> >But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
>
> >
>
> >No, I feel fine.
>
> >
>
> >Does your stomach hurt?
>
> >
>
> >No, Mom, I feel fine!
>
> >
>
> >You don't hurt anywhere?
>
> >
>
> >No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
>
> >
>
> >We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
>
> >this issue.
>
> >
>
> >Brad
>
> >
>
> >__________________________________
>
> >Do you Yahoo!?
>
> >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>
> >http://search.yahoo.com
>
> >__________________________________________________
>
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>Message: 10
>
>Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:08:46 -0400
>
>From: Mary Lou Troy <mltroy at netreach.net>
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
>
>To: Rhodes 22 list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030505194827.00b7e678 at mail1.netreach.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
>
>We got to fly the UPS this weekend. Winds were light and variable at the
>
>
>time. The sail really made a difference in the light air (though it
>didn't
>
>do a thing for the variable part ;-) ) I was surprised at how easy it
>was
>
>to manage - it's a big sail but the air was so light I didn't bother
>with
>
>the winches. The furler base does bump a bit on our solar vent but that
>
>doesn't seem to affect anything. We used the genoa cars and tried it on
>
>most points of sail - sometimes within seconds of each other without
>moving
>
>the tiller. We rigged it before we went out and just laid it fully
>furled
>
>across the cabin top - the air was so light we didn't need to worry
>about
>
>it going anywhere.. It didn't interfere with the genoa. We don't have
>our
>
>halyard run aft so I had to go to the cabintop to raise the sail (short
>
>arms) but that was easy as well.
>
>
>
>Also got to try out the new outhaul system for the main. What an
>improvement!
>
>
>
>
>
>Mary Lou
>
>1991 R22 Fretless
>
>Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 11
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:50 -0500
>
>From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <00cc01c31369$d1cb20b0$6101a8c0 at yourwg5n33dutv>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Larry,
>
>Where are you living. What have you sailed?
>
>What are you looking at ?
>
>Anne
>
>KY Lake
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Larry Abbott" <laabbott at cushing.org>
>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:41 AM
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] info.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I received this address from Stan Spitzer. How can I join? Thanks,
>Larry
>
> > Abbott
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 12
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 00:02:58 -0400
>
>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <003e01c31384$624efb60$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>
>
>I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
>this
>Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing for
>is
>the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>reporting
>to me. Wish me luck!
>
>
>
>I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon, my
>job
>interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
>in
>Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday. As
>I
>look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
>Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
>Lake
>Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
>Wednesday
>night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
>for
>years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
>
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 13
>
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 23:26:51 -0500
>
>From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <E19Ctse-0005y7-00 at hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Roger,
>
>
>
>Good luck, We'll be rootin' for ya'!!
>
>
>
>Rik
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday 05 May 2003 11:02 pm, you wrote:
>
> > Hi Everybody,
>
> >
>
> > I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
>this
>
> > Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>
> > company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
>for
>
> > is the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>
> > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> >
>
> > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
>my
>job
>
> > interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
>overnight in
>
> > Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
>As I
>
> > look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
>
> > Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
>Lake
>
> > Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
>Wednesday
>
> > night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
>for
>
> > years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
> >
>
> > Roger Pihlaja
>
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 14
>
>Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 05:32:15 -0500
>
>From: ellner <ellner at pressenter.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: sanderico at earthlink.net, The Rhodes 22 mail list
>
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.1.20030506053140.00bb3e68 at pop.pressenter.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
>
>Good Luck, Roger.......Keep us posted! (thanks for the Boy Scout story!)
>
>
>maryAt 11:26 PM 5/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Roger,
>
> >
>
> >Good luck, We'll be rootin' for ya'!!
>
> >
>
> >Rik
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >On Monday 05 May 2003 11:02 pm, you wrote:
>
> > > Hi Everybody,
>
> > >
>
> > > I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
>this
>
> > > Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year )
>chemical
>
> > > company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
>for
>
> > > is the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>
> > > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> > >
>
> > > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
>my
>job
>
> > > interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
>overnight
>in
>
> > > Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
>As
>I
>
> > > look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
>
> > > Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
>Lake
>
> > > Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
>Wednesday
>
> > > night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of
>you
>for
>
> > > years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
> > >
>
> > > Roger Pihlaja
>
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> > > __________________________________________________
>
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >__________________________________________________
>
> >Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 15
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 05:37:56 -0500
>
>From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <01ce01c313bb$8ed52010$6101a8c0 at yourwg5n33dutv>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Roger,
>
>All the best for this interview!
>
>you will be close enough for KY Lake!
>
>Anne
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:02 PM
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>
>
>I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
>this
>
>Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>
>company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing for
>is
>
>the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>reporting
>
>to me. Wish me luck!
>
>
>
>I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon, my
>job
>
>interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
>in
>
>Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday. As
>I
>
>look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
>
>Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
>Lake
>
>Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
>Wednesday
>
>night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
>for
>
>years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
>
>
>Roger Pihlaja
>
>S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 16
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:03:23 -0400
>
>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <000e01c313c7$7fb6c550$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Anne,
>
>
>
>Assuming I get the job, I probably won't have much vacation for the 1st
>
>year. So, I doubt I'll be able to make it to KY Lake in 2003.
>
>
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "anima" <anima13 at bellsouth.net>
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 6:37 AM
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>
>
>
>
> > Roger,
>
> > All the best for this interview!
>
> > you will be close enough for KY Lake!
>
> > Anne
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:02 PM
>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Everybody,
>
> >
>
> > I have a job interview with Isotec International, Inc. in Canton, GA
>this
>
> > Wednesday! Isotec is a small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>
> > company in the urethanes business. The position I'll be interviewing
>for
>
>is
>
> > the head of their Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>
>reporting
>
> > to me. Wish me luck!
>
> >
>
> > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport (ATL) around noon,
>my
>
>job
>
> > interviews should be finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying
>overnight in
>
> > Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at 2:00 PM on Thursday.
>As
>
>I
>
> > look at the Georgia state map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake
>
> > Allatoona & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22 owners on
>Lake
>
> > Lanier. Are any of you interested in getting together with me on
>
>Wednesday
>
> > night &/or Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many of you
>for
>
> > years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to finally meet you.
>
> >
>
> > Roger Pihlaja
>
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 17
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:40:31 -0400
>
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <000701c313cc$b0a64a50$0b1feed0 at kroposki>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
>
>Roger,
>
>Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
>
>relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
>
>these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think that
>
>Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
>
>
>
>You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
>
>of Georgia.
>
>Ed K
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 18
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:02:37 -0400
>
>From: "Roger Pihlaja" <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: <kroposki at innova.net>, "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <001301c313d8$27892970$a8b7fea9 at roger1>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>Ed,
>
>
>
>I would have preferred not to move, but I've been unemployed for about
>13
>
>months. Sometimes, life forces tough choices upon us.
>
>
>
>Roger
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:40 AM
>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>
>
>
>
> > Roger,
>
> > Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
>
> > relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
>
> > these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think that
>
> > Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
>
> >
>
> > You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
>
> > of Georgia.
>
> > Ed K
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 19
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 07:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <20030506141747.94350.qmail at web41508.mail.yahoo.com>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
>Roger,
>
>
>
>Good luck with the interview! Just remember the
>
>difference between Yankees and Damn Yankees. Yankees
>
>are people who go to the South. Damn Yankees are
>
>folks like Anne, Rummy, and myself (Stan Spitzer for
>
>that matter). We stayed!
>
>
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>
>
>--- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everybody,
>
> >
>
> > I have a job interview with Isotec International,
>
> > Inc. in Canton, GA this Wednesday! Isotec is a
>
> > small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>
> > company in the urethanes business. The position
>
> > I'll be interviewing for is the head of their
>
> > Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>
> > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> >
>
> > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport
>
> > (ATL) around noon, my job interviews should be
>
> > finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
>
> > in Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at
>
> > 2:00 PM on Thursday. As I look at the Georgia state
>
> > map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake Allatoona
>
> > & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22
>
> > owners on Lake Lanier. Are any of you interested in
>
> > getting together with me on Wednesday night &/or
>
> > Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many
>
> > of you for years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to
>
> > finally meet you.
>
> >
>
> > Roger Pihlaja
>
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
>
>www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________
>
>Do you Yahoo!?
>
>The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>
>http://search.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 20
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:42:07 -0400
>
>From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <410-2200352614427358 at earthlink.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>
>
>
>Roger,
>
>Will you move your family right away if you take this position? Lake
>
>Allatoona and Lake Lanier are close to Atlanta, but we have people from
>
>that area that keep their boats on Lake Hartwell.
>
>
>
>Rummy
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
>
> > From: Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net>
>
> > To: <kroposki at innova.net>; The Rhodes 22 mail list
>
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Date: 5/6/2003 9:02:44 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> >
>
> > Ed,
>
> >
>
> > I would have preferred not to move, but I've been unemployed for about
>13
>
> > months. Sometimes, life forces tough choices upon us.
>
> >
>
> > Roger
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 8:40 AM
>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > Roger,
>
> > > Good luck. You had convinced me that you were not going to
>
> > > relocate. Canton, Georgia, is a kind of northern suburb of Atlanta
>
> > > these days. Allatoona is close, but Lanier is quite far. I think
>that
>
> > > Bob Keller lives on that side of Atlanta.
>
> > >
>
> > > You will be pleasantly surprised with the scenery in that part
>
> > > of Georgia.
>
> > > Ed K
>
> > >
>
> > > __________________________________________________
>
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 21
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:43:49 -0400
>
>From: "John Tonjes" <johntonjes at earthlink.net>
>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <410-22003526144349425 at earthlink.net>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>
>Brad,
>
>Correction, people from Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan are considered
>
>mid-westerners, not Yankee's. There is a huge difference.
>
>
>
>Rummy
>
>
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
>
> > From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Date: 5/6/2003 9:18:20 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rowdy Rhodies In The Canton, GA Area
>
> >
>
> > Roger,
>
> >
>
> > Good luck with the interview! Just remember the
>
> > difference between Yankees and Damn Yankees. Yankees
>
> > are people who go to the South. Damn Yankees are
>
> > folks like Anne, Rummy, and myself (Stan Spitzer for
>
> > that matter). We stayed!
>
> >
>
> > Brad
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- Roger Pihlaja <cen09402 at centurytel.net> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Everybody,
>
> > >
>
> > > I have a job interview with Isotec International,
>
> > > Inc. in Canton, GA this Wednesday! Isotec is a
>
> > > small ( about $20 Million Sales/Year ) chemical
>
> > > company in the urethanes business. The position
>
> > > I'll be interviewing for is the head of their
>
> > > Process Engineering Dept. I'd have 6 engineers
>
> > > reporting to me. Wish me luck!
>
> > >
>
> > > I'll be flying into Atlanta International Airport
>
> > > (ATL) around noon, my job interviews should be
>
> > > finished by about 5:00 PM, & I'm staying overnight
>
> > > in Canton, GA. My flight out leaves ATL airport at
>
> > > 2:00 PM on Thursday. As I look at the Georgia state
>
> > > map, it looks like Canton, GA is near Lake Allatoona
>
> > > & Lake Lanier. I know there are 2 or 3 Rhodes 22
>
> > > owners on Lake Lanier. Are any of you interested in
>
> > > getting together with me on Wednesday night &/or
>
> > > Thursday morning? I've been cooresponding with many
>
> > > of you for years via the Rhodes list & I'd like to
>
> > > finally meet you.
>
> > >
>
> > > Roger Pihlaja
>
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> > > __________________________________________________
>
> > > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help?
>
> > www.rhodes22.org/list
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > __________________________________
>
> > Do you Yahoo!?
>
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>
> > http://search.yahoo.com
>
> > __________________________________________________
>
> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>
>Message: 22
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:04:03 -0400
>
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
>Message-ID: <000401c313e0$bcd23280$0b1feed0 at kroposki>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>
>
>Mary Lou,
>
>Thank you for the report, so far this was the most detailed. It
>
>sounded good. I am waiting for your second installment.
>
>Ed K
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:09 PM
>
>To: Rhodes 22 list
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] UPS update
>
>
>
>We got to fly the UPS this weekend. Winds were light and variable at the
>
>
>
>time. The sail really made a difference in the light air (though it
>
>didn't
>
>do a thing for the variable part ;-) ) I was surprised at how easy it
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>was
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>to manage - it's a big sail but the air was so light I didn't bother
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>with
>
>the winches. The furler base does bump a bit on our solar vent but that
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>doesn't seem to affect anything. We used the genoa cars and tried it on
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>most points of sail - sometimes within seconds of each other without
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>moving
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>the tiller. We rigged it before we went out and just laid it fully
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>furled
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>across the cabin top - the air was so light we didn't need to worry
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>about
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>it going anywhere.. It didn't interfere with the genoa. We don't have
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>our
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>halyard run aft so I had to go to the cabintop to raise the sail (short
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>arms) but that was easy as well.
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>
>
>Also got to try out the new outhaul system for the main. What an
>
>improvement!
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>
>
>
>
>Mary Lou
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>1991 R22 Fretless
>
>Swan Creek, MD / Ft. Washington, PA
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>Message: 23
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:05:16 -0400
>
>From: "Kroposki" <kroposki at innova.net>
>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
>
>To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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>Message-ID: <000501c313e0$e8931060$0b1feed0 at kroposki>
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>Brad,
>
>Any more details how you will get the boat to the "Mid West"?
>
>Ed K
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
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>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:59 PM
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>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] SARS Update
>
>
>
>We postponed our annual trip to China for obvious
>
>reasons. I fed Fan daily with more bad news but her
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>parents in China followed the party line (read the
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>newspapers) until it was too overwhelming to ignore.
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>Then the truth came out. Now, Beijing has a 911 type
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>phone number, 120, that you can call if you have SARS
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>symptoms and need transportation to a treatment
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>center. During Fan's last weekly phone conversation
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>with her sister and parents the following story was
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>told. My sister-in-law has a three year old daughter
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>who is about the sharpest kid I ever met (smarter than
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>my own). She ran a slight fever a few days ago and her
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>parents and grand-parents were quite alarmed. This is
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>how the conversation went (paraphrased from Mandarin
>
>to English).
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>
>
>Ran Ran, do you feel bad?
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>
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>No, I feel fine.
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>
>
>But you have a temperature, does your head hurt?
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>
>
>No, I feel fine.
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>
>
>Does your stomach hurt?
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>
>
>No, Mom, I feel fine!
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>
>
>You don't hurt anywhere?
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>
>
>No, I feel fine! Whatever you do, don't call 120!
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>
>
>We think we'll stay here until the dust settles on
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>this issue.
>
>
>
>Brad
>
>
>
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>Message: 24
>
>Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 11:25:50 EDT
>
>From: SVTRITON at aol.com
>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] marine head
>
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>Message-ID: <133.1f5dbb1f.2be92dfe at aol.com>
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>
>hi all
>
>glad to see we re making progress on the u p s..im anxiously awaiting
>more
>
>input from experienced rhodies
>
>my boat was new last year and i never used the head...when i went to
>
>commission it this year i opened the seacock and started pumping.with
>the
>
>bowl fill lever in the fill position....nothing happened..no water
>
>intake....before i took the pump apart i thought id better ask if there
>is
>
>any other test i should do.... like prime it ?? all input will be
>greatly
>
>appreciated
>
>thanks
>
>tom deliberto
>
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