[Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes

[Wally Buck]

Bill,

Both the left and the right are full of the good, bad, and the ugly. As one 
who bats both left and right I try not to take the politicaly stuff too 
seriously. To me it is obvious that the threat from Iraq was over hyped to 
sell the war. The reasons given to attack are now a moving target.  Powell's 
speech to the UN had nothing to do with freeing the people and all to do 
with defending the US. Now folks are saying that it doesn't even matter if 
we find WMD yet that was the very reason we attacked.

it is easy for the US to pat our selves on the back for setting Iraq free. 
In actuality the war was the easy part. Creating a stable Iraq is going to 
be the real challenge.

I understand how you feel but don't let this stuff run you off.

Wally


>From: Bill Berner <bberner at optonline.net>
>Reply-To: bberner at optonline.net,The Rhodes 22 mail list 
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>To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Soap Boxes
>Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:19:45 -0400
>
>I've been prompted to write by Brad's last couple of posts, especially
>"Rumsfeld apologizes"
>
>I started in to write a suggestion that the list charter be modified to ask
>that members be refrain from soap boxing their political positions.
>
>Then I realized that it would be asking for the group to curtail Freedom of
>Speech.
>
>So, I'm left with a conundrum.
>
>I am personally sick and tired of the inflammatory conservative claptrap
>that shows up here.  It's isn't always the substance that irks me so much,
>but the belligerance, sarcasm and school yard bullying quality of so many 
>of
>the posts. I have rarely seen any acknowledgement that issues can be
>multifaceted and complicated.
>
>Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like all of the cannon fire comes from the
>starboard side, and I'm pretty tired of it.
>
>Chances are that I'll have to quit the list to resolve the issue, not a
>choice I easily make.  There has been some good company here, and lot's of
>good information.
>
>Curious to see responses, then I'll shut up and make a decision.
>
>
>Bill Berner
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of brad haslett
>Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:37 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rumsfeld Apologizes
>
>May 26, 2003
>Rumsfeld Apologizes for Hyping Saddam Threat
>(2003-05-26) -- U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald
>Rumsfeld apologized to Senate Democrats today for
>pre-war "hyping" of the threat posed by Saddam
>Hussein's regime.
>
>"I'm sorry Senators Biden, Rockefeller, Byrd, Roberts
>and others," said a contrite Mr. Rumsfeld. "We
>overestimated the threat posed by a lunatic dictator,
>who hated the U.S. and Israel, and who paid rewards to
>families of Palestinian terrorists. In an age when two
>of the world's tallest buildings can be brought down
>with tools used by the stockboy at K-Mart, we should
>have demanded more concrete evidence of exotic weapons
>of mass destruction. Saddam was helpless as a kitten
>up a tree."
>
>Sen. Rockefeller, D-WV, said Congress must determine
>whether the administration "intentionally
>overestimated" Iraq's weapons program, or "just
>misread it. ... In either case it's a very bad
>outcome."
>
>Mr. Rumsfeld agreed, "What an awful outcome. We deeply
>regret freeing the Iraqi people from a murderous gang
>of thugs masquerading in the United Nations as a
>representative republic. We're sorry that the Iraqi
>people have discovered thousands of graves of their
>Saddam-murdered relatives. It's none of our business
>if people want to live like that."
>
>
>
>
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