[Rhodes22-list] The Nerd Goes Back To School

pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net
Tue Sep 2 15:52:59 EDT 2003


Roger,

     What a neat idea.  I think your biggest problem will be that you'll 
probably find that you know more than most of the professors.  The other is 
that your "classmates" will find out and start coming to you to help them 
study and with their homework.  As helpful as you always are, that could 
overload you in a hurry.  Although I know you don't need it - Best of Luck!

Paul

> Hi Everybody,
> 
> Well, my life has changed again!  I've gone back to school at Saginaw 
Valley State University (SVSU).  I've enrolled in their 2nd baccalaureate 
degree program in an attempt to earn a BS degree in mechanical engineering 
(BSME).  As many of you know, I already hold BS & MS degrees in chemical 
engineering.
> 
> The whole thing happened pretty quickly.  In the end of July, 2003, I 
received an advertising flier in the mail from SVSU.  As I quickly glanced 
thru it, intending to toss it out as junk mail, I noticed SVSU had 
this "2nd Baccalaureate Degree Program" & they had programs in mechanical & 
electrical engineering.  The BSME & BSEE degree programs really caught my 
eye because I wasn't aware SVSU had an engineering school.  Up to that 
point, I thought the closest school that offered engineering degrees was 
Michigan State University in E. Lansing, MI, about 100 miles away.  So, the 
next day, I arranged an appointment with the SVSU Admissions Dept., took a 
tour of campus & the Engineering School, & talked with a couple of the 
engineering professors.  I came away convinced these folks & their program 
were for real!  The decision to pursue the mechanical engineering degree is 
purely market driven.  As I've been job searching, it appears about 75% of 
the engineering jobs that come onto the market in this area are for ME's.  
In my previous job, at the Dow Chemical Co., I did a lot of mechanical 
engineering-related work.  Those of you familiar with my technical writing 
for the Rhodes 22 list know that most of it is mechanical engineering 
oriented.  With 26 years of experience, I could probably do the job in most 
of these positions.  However, without an ME degree, I couldn't even get an 
interview.
> 
> However, I've been unemployed since March, 2002 & our savings are 
dwindling away pretty quickly.  In addition, my older son Daniel, is just 
starting his 2nd year of college as a Graphic Arts major.  So, from a 
family resources point of view, I needed to get the required class credits 
for this BSME degree down to something that could be completed in a year or 
less.  That's where this 2nd Baccalaureate Degree Program came to the 
rescue.  Despite the fact that my 1st BS degree from Michigan Technological 
University dates back to 1975, in the 2nd Baccalaureate Degree Program, all 
the general education class requirements were waived.  All I had to do was 
determine how many of my chemical engineering college credits would 
transfer & count towards the mechanical engineering program.  Getting an 
official copy of my transcript from Michigan Tech sent to SVSU was no 
problem.  However, I needed to somehow get documentation of the course 
content of certain of my chemical engineering courses from the years 1971 - 
1976!
> 
> So, on very short notice, in the 1st week of August, Daniel & I made a 
road trip up to Michigan Technological University in Houghton, MI.  
Houghton is in the NW upper peninsula of Michigan, about 450 miles away.  
We left early one morning & got to Houghton by about 2:00 PM.  I spent the 
rest of the afternoon in the archives of the campus library.  The library 
archives had bound paper copies of the academic catalogs from the years I 
attended school there.  I was able to photocopy the course descriptions I 
needed out of these original academic catalogs.  We camped overnight nearby 
& drove home the next day.
> 
> >From these course descriptions, a few syllabuses (syllabi?) I still had 
from my college notebooks, and some letters of recommendation from my 
former colleagues at Dow Chemical Co., I put together a stack of course 
petitions wherein I attempted to preempt out of as many ME courses as 
possible.  For each required ME course, I took the course descriptions from 
the current SVSU academic catalog and tried to justify my case that 
combinations of 3, 4, or even 5 classes from Michigan Tech &/or my work 
experience provided equivalent training.  I had to prepare stand alone 
course petitions for each SVSU course I wanted credit for.  I also had to 
sort thru the remaining required SVSU classes to figure which ones I still 
needed to take.  In certain cases, I had to petition SVSU to allow me to 
take classes and their prerequisite classes concurrently.  I had to submit 
these petitions to the SVSU mechanical engineering dept. and the entire ME 
dept. faculty voted on each one in private session.   After all the 
academic dust settled, I've managed to enter SVSU as a senior with 93 
credit hours in the bag and 36 credit hours remaining to be earned.  This 
works out to 17 credit hours per semester in the fall and winter terms plus 
2 credit hours in the summer, 2004 semester.  At this rate, I'll be done by 
August, 2004 with less than $10,000 invested, not including commuting 
costs.  It's doable; but, I'm going to need to find a job ASAP after that!  
If it's not in engineering, I may be flipping burgers at McDonalds a year 
from now.
> 
> 12 - 18 credit hours is considered the "normal" range of full time 
student load.  So, 17 credit hours per semester doesn't sound like a real 
heavy load, right?  However, the course petitioning process left me with 
mostly the really hard core ME classes to take - i.e. the real "killer" 
classes that everyone dreads.  The normal 4 year BSME degree program has 
students taking only one, or at most two, of these killer classes per 
semester.  I'm taking three of these beasts at the same time this semester, 
plus a couple of somewhat easier (for me) courses.  The winter semester 
class load will be similar.  Keeping in mind the last calculus class I took 
was something like 30 years ago, the homework load is staggering!  For some 
reason, I only have classes Monday - Thursday.  But, on Monday, Tuesday, & 
Wednesday, I have classes from 10:00 AM to 10:00 PM with a 45 minute 
commute on each end.  Fortunately, there is downtime during the day to do 
homework in between classes.  Being a morning person, I'm not too thrilled 
with the 12 hour days & the late evening schedule.  But, in each case, 
there was only one section of the class available.  So, my class schedule 
has zero degrees of freedom.  I'm fortunate it's even possible at all!  I'm 
very motivated; but, hopefully, haven't taken on more than I can handle 
here.
> 
> So, on September 22nd, I will turn 50 years old.  I will spend my 50th 
birthday in college classes with students less than half my age.  Because 
of my late night class schedule, I've resigned my adult leader position in 
my Boy Scout troop.  You won't be hearing about any more Boy Scout Polar 
Bear Winter Camping trips for awhile.  For now, I've kept my adult leader 
position in the Venture Unit.  But, I've warned them I won't be attending 
any Monday night unit meetings and will be very selective about attending 
weekend outings for the next year.  Hey, load had to be shed somewhere & I 
think I'm going to need the weekends to catch up!  I plan to stay on the 
Rhodes list, but probably won't be as active in my contributions.  I hope 
you all understand.
> 
> Despite the work load, my attitude is better than it's been in a long 
time.  I'm a very active person & engineers are, by nature, hard wired to 
be problem solvers.  The past 18 months of fruitless job searching has been 
pure torture & my ego & self esteem have really taken a beating.  I don't 
know where this new phase of my life is eventually going to end up.  But, 
at least there's a goal to be worked for & it feels like I'm moving forward 
again.  My wife, Deb, is nervous about the cost & worried about me bearing 
up under the crushing class load; but, in the end supportive.  She was 
appalled at how many hours it took me to do my homework & amazed at how 
cheerfully I did it.  The nerd has gone back to school!
> 
> Wish me luck!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
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