Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Geraldo Rivera reports
Steve
rhodes2282 at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 2 06:04:34 EST 2004
Now Wally, the oil things again. The liberal try that
spin. No one buy off on that. Why are we spending
billion of US dollars to free the people of Irag that
lead you to believe that!!!! You can come up with
something better than that. By the Way; we are
fighting a world war - terrorist are all over the
world, Irag is just one place of many we have troop
helping eliminate this problem. If you want to fight
a terrorist world war; you take the fight to where the
terrorist are at. YOU DON'T wait to let them come to
the US like Clinton did. That got 3,000 of our people
killed. How many more US people do you want to see
killed because we sit around and do nothing about this
problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> You might have a leg to stand on if you supplied
> some facts with your
> rhetoric. Why is Iraq the key? Oil is the key, if
> there wasn't a drop of oil
> in the Middle East we wouldn't care.
>
> Now you want to go into Iran after we take over
> Iraq? For what reason, so we
> can control oil? You will not be happy until we
> start World War III!
>
> I guess we should change from "The Land of the Free"
> to "Might makes Right".
>
> I agree they hate us, so why bother to "free" them.
> We would be much better
> off spending every penny on research for alternative
> fuil sources than going
> to war. Sure we toppled Saddam but at what cost?
>
> If Bush talked the way you did he wouldn't stand a
> chance of being
> reelected.
>
> Wally
>
>
>
>
> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> Politics Geraldo Rivera
> >reports
> >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:02:10 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Well, I always like stirring up the list, Wally:-)
> >
> >It doesn't matter if Irag attached us or not.
> >Afgrangan would have never solved our problem.
> Irag
> >is the big factor in fixing the that area. Plus it
> >give us an army on both side of Iran if we need to
> >attact there also. You all need to remember, it
> >doesn't matter what we do; those people HATE us.
> No
> >matter how nice we are, no matter what we do - They
> >are going to be attaching us unless we clean it up.
> >That the bottom line. Simple as that. We clean it
> up
> >or more american die. Its an easy choice and you
> >factor in that 3,000 American have already died.
> You
> >can't enorgh it like Clinton did - that what caused
> >the problem. It like the school boy example I
> gave.
> >If you let them pick on you, they will keep on.
> Wipe
> >the crap out of them - problem solved. It is
> really
> >as simple as that. What I don't think most people
> >factor into thier analysis is that we are not
> dealing
> >with raconal people; they hate us, always have,
> always
> >will, nothing will change that. However, change
> thier
> >whole way of life; and thier KIDS (not the adults)
> MAY
> >grow up with a different mindset.
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > Just who in Iraq picked on us? If you know the
> > > answer please let the media
> > > in on your secret. Going after Bin laden was the
> > > right thing to do. Not sure
> > > what that has to do with Iraq though.
> > >
> > > So one is a coward or a puss just because they
> don't
> > > agree we should attack
> > > a country that never attacked us? The lack of
> logic
> > > and facts behind your
> > > comments makes me wonder if you really believe
> the
> > > BS you are spewing or are
> > > you just trying to stir up the list....
> > >
> > > Wally
> > >
> > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> > > Politics Geraldo Rivera
> > > >reports
> > > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:20:44 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >I knew you got pick on in school:-) Should
> have
> > > stood
> > > >up & fought. It work ever time:-)
> > > >Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
> > > > > Dang. Just reread what I wrote. Sorry folks.
> I
> > > guess
> > > > > I let him get to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Mark Kaynor
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:14 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> Geraldo
> > > Rivera
> > > > > reports
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember 9/11 - in a pretty personal way,
> too.
> > > > > Some friends were lost at
> > > > > the Naval Operations Center at the Pentagon.
> The
> > > > > team had just relocated to
> > > > > their new offices. I was doing some work for
> the
> > > > > Navy at the time and was
> > > > > asked to compile a list of the relocations
> since
> > > our
> > > > > data was more up to
> > > > > date than the sources they had available at
> the
> > > > > time. As much as I am
> > > > > opposed to war, I was in favor of us going
> to
> > > > > Afghanistan to try and root
> > > > > out that evil.
> > > > >
> > > > > But Iraq is so NOT 9/11.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nobody ever said we should be "pusses". Not
> sure
> > > how
> > > > > saying "a lot more than
> > > > > 3000 people have died since 9/11" makes me a
> > > puss,
> > > > > but I guess that's your
> > > > > call.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can see how you thought what I wrote was
> > > funny.
> > > > > Particularly since you
> > > > > think I'm just a stupid liberal. Thanks for
> > > > > unimaginative, narrow minded,
> > > > > jingoistic, "balls to the walls" abusive
> > > > > "discussion" and name calling. Kind
> > > > > of reminds me of some of the other bullies
> I've
> > > > > known.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Steve
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:00 PM
> > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> Geraldo
> > > Rivera
> > > > > reports
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mercy Mark. Do you not remember
> 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > You
> > > > > have to fight to be free. You can't be a
> puss &
> > > > > expect this country to remain free. Freedom
> is
> > > not
> > > > > Free!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am wasting my time -
> You
> > > can
> > > > > take
> > > > > a mule to water; but you can't make it
> drink!!!!
> > > I
> > > > > guess that saying go also that you can show
> a
> > > person
> > > > > the information - But you can't keep them
> from
> > > being
> > > > > stupid!!!!!!!!!!! I bet you were one of
> those
> > > folks
> > > > > on the playground that ran to the teacher
> ever
> > > time
> > > > > a
> > > > > bully polk at you or made fun of you.
> Mercy, NO
> > > > > bully
> > > > > ever made fun of me & got away with it. Do
> you
> > > > > reallt
> > > > > think of lieing around with you head in the
> sand
> > > > > will
> > > > > make anyone be nice to you. No one respects
> a
> > > puss.
> > > > > The seene yesterday is a replay of
> Blackhaulk
> > > Down-
> > > > > The Terrorists think if they hit us Hard we
> will
> > > > > puss
> > > > > out. We have them by the balls now!!!! All
> we
> > > have
> > > > > to do is strick back even harder & the job
> will
> > > be
> > > > > all
> > > > > but done. That how you win a war. The
> other
> > > side
> > > > > never plays fair. This country is the only
> > > country
> > > > > on
> > > > > the plantet that plays fair. We have to hit
> > > them
> > > > > hard
> > > > > now & finish the job and the world will be a
> > > better
> > > > > place for it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I have said my piece. It never
> suprised
> > > of
> > > > > some
> > > > > of the stuff that I read by the Libreal. Of
> > > course
> > > > > your fellow libreals may like you for it but
> > > think
> > > > > about it; being a puss is still being a puss
> -
> > > how
> > > > > can
> > > > > you respect yourself in the morning. At
> least
> > > you
> > > > > have Bush to thanks for still having the
> freedom
> > > to
> > > > > voice your opinion. If we ever lose one of
> > > these
> > > > > war;
> > > > > and a dirty bomb or mini nuke wipe us out by
> all
> > > > > these
> > > > > terrorists, what are you going to do them:-)
> It
> > > will
> > > > > be to late to understand your shortcoming
> > > > > them!!!!!!!
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > > PS - The below did give me a good laugh:-)
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
> > > > > > Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Think about it, if Clinton would have
> done
> > > what
> > > > > > Bush did, 3,000 people
> > > > > > would be alive now. You can't argue with
> > > that."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ - I
> guess
> > > you
> > > > > > must have meant "American
> > > > > > people". And who knows what would have
> > > happened if
> > > > > > Clinton had done what
> > > > > > Bush did? It could have incited even
> higher
> > > levels
> > > > > > of anti-Americanism and
> > > > > > more terrorist acts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I love this sentiment - "If they act
> up,
> > > well
> > > > > > stomp on them." I wonder
> > > > > > why some of them don't like us?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > > >
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Steve
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 9:49 AM
> > > > > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> Geraldo
> > > > > Rivera
> > > > > > reports
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Slim
> > > > > > Let me help you with your answer below. I
> > > know
> > > > > you
> > > > > > Liberal are out there but you really need
> to
> > > stop
> > > > > > hating Bush and analyze the facts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US needed a contractor, if not
> > > Halliburton,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > WHO? Halliburton is one of the biggest
> > > company in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > world, operating in countries with offices
> all
> > > > > over
> > > > > > the world. The US can't contract with
> Billy
> > > Bob
> > > > > > Democrate if they are not big enough to
> handle
> > > the
> > > > > > job. Halliburton is hugh. All contractor
> > > have
> > > > > > audit
> > > > > > problems. Trust me, I work for the
> > > government;
> > > > > all
> > > > > > contractors get audit findings and when
> the
> > > > > auditors
> > > > > > find something; the problem is corected.
> Its
> > > > > normal
> > > > > > whether the contractor is Democrate or
> > > Republican.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The US is safer; much safer. Remember,
> since
> > > > > 9/11,
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > haven't been hit on our own soil. Yes,
> thier
> > > > > > hitting
> > > > > > us oversea, Irag but thier hitting the
> > > military,
> > > > > NOT
> > > > > > citizens. We are keeping them pin down
> over
> > > > > there,
> > > > > > oversea. This is the smart things to do.
> > > > > Remember,
> > > > > > Clinton had 8 years, they attached the
> twin
> > > > > towers,
> > > > > > Our foreign embassies, the USS Cole and
> all
> > > > > Clinton
> > > > > > did was lob a few bombs at them. Think
> about
> > > it,
> > > > > if
> > > > > > Clinton would have done what Bush did,
> 3,000
> > > > > people
> > > > > > would be alive now. You can't argue with
> > > that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for oil prices, This country has plenty
> of
> > > oil.
> > > > > > If
> > > > > > democrate would stop fighting and let the
> US
> > > pump
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > own oil, then gas would be under a $1 a
> > > gallon.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > can't blame that on Bush. Remember, up in
> > > Alaski
> > > > > > where only anamil is a polar bear &
> nothing
> > > else -
> > > > > > think about it - why don't we pump that
> out &
> > > use
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > Its the Democrate that stop that. Funny
> thing
> > > is
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > the people in Alaski wanted the business
> up
> > > there.
> > > > > > Go
> > > > > > figure!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for US relation, remember we are the
> lone
> > > Super
> > > > > > Power, sometimes everbody is not going to
> > > like
> > > > > us.
> > > > > > Do we stop pushing our values, our fight
> for
> > > > > freedom
> > > > > > around the world, for rights for Women &
> > > children.
> > > > > > You would think that these are Democrate
> > > values.
> > > > > > Whats up with that? Besides screw the
> French
> > > &
> > > > > > Germans, France couldn't wipe its way out
> of a
> > > wet
> > > > > > paper bag & Germany - well, we have wipe
> them
> > > > > before
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > we can do it again if they don't like what
> we
> > > are
> > > > > > doing. That why we keep Militery Bases in
> > > Germany
> > > > > &
> > > > > > Japan. If they act up, well stomp on
> them.
> > > You
> > > > > all
> > > > > > should know this stuff- Remember - Freedom
> is
> > > NOT
> > > > > > Free!!!!!! And War is ulgy!!! Its always
> best
> > > to
> > > > > > fight on some other country soil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for the economy, Clinton lived off
> Reagon &
> > > > > Bush
> > > > > > Sr. economy policies & cut the CIA, FBI &
> > > military
> > > > > > budgets to make that surplus. Bush Jr.
> will
> > > fix
> > > > > the
> > > > > > mess that Clinton made. YOu should be
> > > thanking
> > > > > > Bush.
> > > > > > If you analyze economice over the last
> decade,
> > > you
> > > > > > would know this. LIke I said, you got to
> stop
> > > > > > hating
> > > > > > Bush and analyze these things. I don't
> hate
> > > > > > Clinton,
> > > > > > you a good old country boy who liked to
> party.
> > > He
> > > > > > party here in Arkansas, raise taxes, grew
> > > > > government
> > > > > > out of control, our supress court rule
> that
> > > our
> > > > > > Education system was unconstitutional.
> Now
> > > you
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > think with Clinton saying he was the
> Education
> > > > > > President, why did he leave Arkansas in
> such a
> > > > > mess.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O'well, this is a waste of my time. Folks
> you
> > > > > have
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > analyze things for what they are, leave
> > > personal
> > > > > > feeling out of it. Do what best for our
> > > > > country!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Is Halliburton making a fortune? Yes!
> Has
> > > this
> > > > > > > stabilized the middle east?
> > > > > > > No! Has it made the US safer? No! Has
> it
> > > had
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > positive effect on gas
> > > > > > > prices? Yes, if you're an oil company.
> Has
> > > > > Bush
> > > > > > > spent his way to the
> > > > > > > highest deficit in history? Yes! Has
> it
> > > led to
> > > > > > > better US relations with
> > > > > > > ANY other country in the world? Yes, if
> > > you're
> > > > > > > Israel. Has this
> > > > > > > administration become a Fascist regime?
> > > Yes!
> > > > > > > (Fascism: When government is
> > > > > > > in bed with industry, when civil rights
> are
> > > > > taken
> > > > > > > away and the rule is by
> > > > > > > intimidation, threat and fear.) Is the
> war
> > > on
> > > > > > > terrorism best fought in Iraq
> > > > > > > (no connection to 9/11, but over 150,000
> > > troops)
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > Afghanistan (confirmed
> > > > > > > connection to 9/11, but only 11,000
> troops?)
> > > And
> > > > > > > speaking of connections to
> > > > > > > 9/11, why do we have this cozy
> relationship
> > > with
> > > > > > > Saudi Arabia? Could it
> > > > > > > be...um...the oil? Is it not the real
> > > Taliban
> > > > > > > training ground? Most of the
> > > > > > > hijackers were Saudis, Osama's a Saudi.
> > > > > > Hello????
> > > > > > > One week after 9/11,
> > > > > > > anyone with a Saudi passport was allowed
> > > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > US. Egyptian--No!
> > > > > > > Iranian--No! Moroccan--No!
> French--Kiss My
> > > > > Ass!
> > > > > > > Oh, but Saudis--no
> > > > > > > problem. Bring money!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And does all this take Americans' minds
> off
> > > the
> > > > > > > domestic problems that Bush
> > > > > > > has worsened? He wishes!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So I guess Geraldo didn't see the news
> today
> > > > > (Wed)
> > > > > > > from Fallujah, huh? I'm
> > > > > > > referring to the nine Americans killed
> in a
> > > raid
> > > > > > > where Iraqis dragged the
> > > > > > > burned and mutilated bodies behind cars
> and
> > > hung
> > > > > > > them up on a bridge. How's
> > > > > > > he gonna sugar-coat that one? Is THAT
> > > simply
> > > > > > > leftist reporting? A couple
> > > > > > > weeks ago Peter Jennings from ABC
> (Steve,
> > > some
> > > > > say
> > > > > > > ABC is too liberal, some
> > > > > > > say it's not liberal enough--but nobody
> says
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > conservative) was on
> > > > > > > location in Iraq reporting on the state
> of
> > > > > affairs
> > > > > > > one year after the
> > > > > > > invasion. There was plenty of positive
> > > news,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > suggest that the Dems
> > > > > > > are "nitpicking" for reporting stories
> like
> > > this
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > from Fallujah is
> > > > > > > absurd. C' mon! Consider the source.
> > > Geraldo
> > > > > > > Rivera???!!! I'll take Al
> > > > > > > Franken's word over Geraldo's any day.
> > > Hell,
> > > > > I'd
> > > > > > > even take Rush Limbaugh's
> > > > > > > word over Geraldo's.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But my real hero these days is Richard
> > > > > > > Clarke--tellin' it like it is!!!
> > > > > > > There's no getting around it--the
> incumbent
> > > has
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > go come November!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Slim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/31/04 6:58 PM, "ed kroposki"
> > > > > > > <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey mark, check this out in scopes.
> It
> > > was
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > sent to me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The buildings that AREN'T burning in
> Iraq
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "They have a saying in the news
> business,"
> > > > > > Geraldo
> > > > > > > Rivera related this
> > > > > > > > week. "Reporters don't report
> buildings
> > > that
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > burn." And with that
> > > > > > > > introduction, he told a TV audience
> about
> > > the
> > > > > > > story that is being
> > > > > > > > systematically denied to our entire
> > > nation:
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > success story of
> > > > > > > > post-Saddam Iraq.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are we losing some soldiers each week?
> > > Yes,.
> > > > > Is
> > > > > > > there some frustration
> > > > > > > > in the public about electricity and
> water
> > > > > > service?
> > > > > > > Yes. Are some Saddam
> > > > > > > > Hussein loyalists throughout the land,
> > > making
> > > > > > > trouble? Yes. Has this
> > > > > > > > opened a window for some terrorist
> > > mischief?
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > > But that's ALL we
> > > > > > > > hear. No wonder the country is in a
> mixed
> > > mood
> > > > > > > about Iraq. If you hear
> > > > > > > > about the buildings that are not
> burning,
> > > > > > though,
> > > > > > > it is a different
> > > > > > > > story indeed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rivera is no shill for George W. Bush.
> But
> > > > > Bush,
> > > > > > > Condi Rice and Colin
> > > > > > > > Powell together could not have been as
> > > > > effective
> > > > > > > as Geraldo was Thursday
> > > > > > > > night on the Fox News Channel's
> Hannity
> > > and
> > > > > > Colmes
> > > > > > > program.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "When I got to Baghdad, I barely
> > > recognized
> > > > > it,"
> > > > > > > he began, Comparing his
> > > > > > > > just-completed trip to two others he
> made
> > > > > during
> > > > > > > and just after the
> > > > > > > > battle to topple Saddam. "You have
> over
> > > 30,000
> > > > > > > Iraqi cops and militiamen
> > > > > > > > already on the job.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is four months after major
> fighting
> > > > > > stopped.
> > > > > > > Can you imagine that
> > > > > > > > kind of gearing up in this country?
> Law
> > > and
> > > > > > order
> > > > > > > is better;
> > > > > > > > archaeological sites are being
> preserved;
> > > > > > > factories, schools are being
> > > > > > > > guarded." But what about the
> secondhand
> > > > > griping
> > > > > > > that the media have been
> > > > > > > > so efficiently relating about power,
> water
> > > and
> > > > > > > other infrastructure?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "To say that Iraq is being rebuilt is
> not
> > > > > true,"
> > > > > > > answered Rivera. "Iraq
> > > > > > > > is being built. There was no
> > > infrastructure
> > > > > > > before; we are doing it. I
> > > > > > > > just think the good news is being
> > > > > underestimated
> > > > > > > and underreported." At
> > > > > > > > this juncture, one must evaluate how
> to
> > > feel
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > the voices telling us
> > > > > > > > only about the bad news in Iraq,
> whether
> > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > mouths of news anchors
> > > > > > > > or Democratic presidential hopefuls.
> At
> > > best,
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > are underinformed. At
> > > > > > > > worst, their one-sided assessments of
> > > > > > post-Saddam
> > > > > > > Iraq are intentional
> > > > > > > > falsehoods for obvious reasons.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If I hear one more person mock that
> > > "Mission
> > > > > > > Accomplished" banner
> > > > > > > > beneath which President Bush thanked a
> > > > > shipload
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > sailors and Marines a
> > > > > > > > few months back, I'm going to spit.
> That
> > > was a
> > > > > > > reference to the ouster
> > > > > > > > of Saddam's regime, and that mission
> was
> > > > > indeed
> > > > > > > accomplished, apparently
> > > > > > > > to the great chagrin of the American
> left.
> > > No
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > said what followed
> > > > > > > > would be easy or cheap, and that's why
> the
> > > > > > > dripping-water torture of the
> > > > > > > > cost and casualty stories is so
> > > infuriating.
> > > > > > > Remember we pay our
> > > > > > > > soldiers whether they are in Iraq or
> in Ft
> > > > > > Bragg,
> > > > > > > North Carolina. We
> > > > > > > > should all mourn the loss of every
> fallen
> > > > > > soldier.
> > > > > > > But context cries out
> > > > > > > > to be heard. Our present news media is
> not
> > > > > > > performing this task. As some
> > > > > > > > dare to wonder if this might become a
> > > > > > Vietnam-like
> > > > > > > quagmire, I'll remind
> > > > > > > > whoever needs it that most of our
> 58,000
> > > > > Vietnam
> > > > > > > war toll died between
> > > > > > > > 1966 and 1972, during which we lost an
> > > average
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > about 8,000 per year.
> > > > > > > > That's about 22 per day, every day,
> for
> > > > > > thousands
> > > > > > > of days on
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Local elections are under way across
> Iraq,
> > > > > > Rivera
> > > > > > > reported. "Where Kurds
> > > > > > > > and Arabs have been battling for
> decades,
> > > > > things
> > > > > > > have been settling
> > > > > > > > down. Administrator Paul Bremer is
> doing a
> > > > > great
> > > > > > > job." So does Geraldo
> > > > > > > > think his media colleagues are
> > > intentionally
> > > > > > > painting with one side of
> > > > > > > > the brush? "I'm not into conspiracy
> > > theories,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > there's just more bang
> > > > > > > > for your buck when you report the GI
> who
> > > got
> > > > > > > killed rather than the 99
> > > > > > > > who didn't get killed, who make
> friends,
> > > who
> > > > > > > helped schedule elections,
> > > > > > > > who helped shops get open for
> business,
> > > who
> > > > > > helped
> > > > > > > traffic flow again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "The vast majority of Iraqis are very
> > > happy to
> > > > > > > have us there. I would
> > > > > > > > like to see a bit more balance." This
> > > needs to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > reported to the
> > > > > > > > American Public who are presently
> being
> > > duped.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > expect the dominant
> > > > > > > > media culture to nitpick and attack
> Bush,
> > > and
> > > > > > > Democrats to blast him
> > > > > > > > with reckless abandon. But when that
> leads
> > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > willful exclusion of
> > > > > > > > facts that would shine truthful light
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > great
> > > > > > > work of the American
> > > > > > > > armed forces, that level of malice
> plumbs
> > > new
> > > > > > > depths."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you have a friend that is looking
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > > truth, pass this on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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