[Rhodes22-list] Politics
Rob Lowe
rlowe at vt.edu
Fri Apr 2 16:23:47 EST 2004
Agreed. Thanks. It's impressive to see the number of groups formed with a
common goal. The defeat of the current president. I don't think Nader will
tip the election this time around. Peoples eyes have been opened to the
lies and deceit. As was said earlier, it's going to be a heck of an
election!
Rob Lowe
S/V Getaway
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
Thanks, again, for the great site, again.
Do keep them coming.
Bill Effros
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Kaynor
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
Steve,
Here's one that should keep you busy for a few days:
http://members.gcnet.net/visionquest/progressive_links/progressive_links.htm
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:34 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
Excellent Mark, Sounds like a good book for liberal:-)
steve
--- Mark Kaynor <mark at kaynor.org> wrote:
> Wally,
>
> Did you ever have occasion to see an article on The
> Onion last year about
> Senator Gronk? It was pretty funny - I just looked
> for it but haven't been
> able to find it - wish I could.
>
> Basically Senator Gronk is this neanderthalesque guy
> whose response to
> anything he doesn't understand is "Gronk smash! And
> smash and smash!".
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf
> Of Steve
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 9:18 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
>
>
> Now Wally, when Clinton got a blow job in the oval
> office while talking to a senator; kind of public
> don't you think!!!!!
>
> Clarke is piss off employee that got demoted & is
> trying to sale a Bush hate book. What else do you
> need me to explain to you.
> Steve
>
>
> --- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > I thought we were talking about Clarke? Also I was
> > never aware of Clinton
> > recieving any BJs in "public". Did I miss
> something?
> > Stick to facts. It
> > makes thing much easier.
> >
> > I am not defending Clinton, as I said I never
> voted
> > for him. This thread is
> > not about Clinton, try to stay on subject. Can you
> > do that? I am not a
> > liberal but perhaps anyone who disagrees with you
> > is.
> >
> > Reread my posts, your closed mind is getting in
> the
> > way. I am going to guess
> > you don't get out of Arkansas much.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 05:56:19 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Oh give me a break, Wally. How many blow jobs
> does
> > >that guy have to get in public to prove he just a
> > >partying country boy who never had a clue about
> > >anything except TAX & Spend!!!!!!!!! The only
> > >nonsense on this list are the liberal who are so
> > >caught up in hating Bush that they would put this
> > >country in harm way just to get the Liberal back
> in
> > >power. Talk about nonsence!!!!!!!!!
> > >Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Steve,
> > > >
> > > > It would help your cause if you put more than
> > thread
> > > > of truth in your posts.
> > > > I agree that Clarke is trying to sell a book.
> As
> > to
> > > > the parties, and Clinton
> > > > watching you are just talking nonsense.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > > > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:17:59 -0800 (PST)
> > > > >
> > > > >Come on Bill, Richard Clarke is trying to
> sell
> > his
> > > > >book. He spends 8 years under Clinton doing
> > > > nothing
> > > > >but partying, watching the Commandor in Chief
> > get
> > > > blow
> > > > >jobs; then come Bush & its determine he knows
> > > > nothing,
> > > > >has no terrorist plan, at least no one beside
> > him
> > > > >knows about, Bush demotes him & he write a
> Bush
> > > > hate
> > > > >book. Surely, you can see that!!!!!!!
> > > > >Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Or, to quote Richard Clarke, "Invading
> Iraq
> > > > after
> > > > > > 9/11 is like invading Mexico after Pearl
> > > > Harbor."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Effros
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Wally Buck
> > > > > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:45 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Japan attacked the US, Iraq did not. How
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > compare the two shows a
> > > > > > real lack of understanding of both
> history
> > and
> > > > > > current world events.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By the way, NC had a "cowboy Republican"
> > for
> > > > too
> > > > > > many years, luckily Jesse
> > > > > > Helms decided to retire.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wally
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes
> > 22
> > > > mail
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics
> > Date:
> > > > Thu,
> > > > > > 1 Apr 2004 11:16:42 -0800
> > > > > > >(PST)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Good thing Bush lower you taxes to make
> > up
> > > > for
> > > > > > all the
> > > > > > >State tax increases, Stan. Maybe you
> > need to
> > > > try
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >get more Rupublican voted into office
> > there
> > > > in NC
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >you would not have those problem.
> Maybe
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > >wild NC rebulican cowboy that could
> help
> > you
> > > > > > out:-) I
> > > > > > >find it interesting that a business
> owner
> > > > would
> > > > > > hold
> > > > > > >the view that you do, Stan. I work for
> > the
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > >and see that your analysis is off. No
> > > > offence
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > > >call them like they analyze out to be.
> > As
> > > > for
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > >solders, they signed up to fight; on
> > their
> > > > own
> > > > > > free
> > > > > > >will. Surenly you don't think that the
> > > > militery
> > > > > > >paycheck is jsut the same as a welfare
> > check.
> > > > > > Also,
> > > > > > >the only reason that we all can sit
> here
> > &
> > > > voice
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > >opinions freely is the fact that we
> have
> > > > militery
> > > > > > >Bases all over the world with solders
> on
> > > > ready to
> > > > > > >fight to protect this country. That
> what
> > > > keep
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > >country free; we fight to keep it that
> > way.
> > > > > > Talking
> > > > > > >does no good.
> > > > > > >Steve
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >PS - No offence Stan. Just my opinion.
> > BTW:
> > > > I
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > >relative that died in WWII so that you
> > all
> > > > don't
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > >to speak Japanese. Maybe we should
> have
> > jsut
> > > > > > raised
> > > > > > >the white flag then, we wouldn't have
> to
> > > > worry
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > >Irag today - Would have been an Japan
> > > > problem:-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > sorry - I can't resist
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As usual both sides score points but
> I
> > am
> > > > old
> > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > > to remember that when
> > > > > > > > Clinton did his military thing the
> > > > republicans
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > screaming for his head
> > > > > > > > for trying to help the oppressed
> > Muslims,
> > > > even
> > > > > > > > though he did not lose
> > > > > > > > American lives in the process.
> > Imagine if
> > > > > > this were
> > > > > > > > Clinton's war - they
> > > > > > > > would have hired a hit squad to stop
> > him.
> > > > > > This time
> > > > > > > > it's a republican
> > > > > > > > trying to help Muslims and it is the
> > > > second
> > > > > > coming.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would not pick on Geraldo for
> trying
> > to
> > > > tell
> > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > some good news - while he
> > > > > > > > is more liberal than his Foxy
> brothers
> > he
> > > > does
> > > > > > eat
> > > > > > > > at the pleasure of those
> > > > > > > > network divisions of the
> > Murdock/General
> > > > > > Electric
> > > > > > > > giants. I would,
> > > > > > > > however, pick on our media
> mouthpieces
> > for
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > picking on leaders who plowed
> > > > > > > > us into a venture where the facts
> have
> > > > proven
> > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > strategist failed their
> > > > > > > > pre-attack homework. It may be
> > > > comforting to
> > > > > > cry
> > > > > > > > over the dead but it is
> > > > > > > > sickening to see the thousands upon
> > > > thousands
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > come back to us breathing
> > > > > > > > but leaving so many of their good
> > parts
> > > > over
> > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > As has been posted on
> > > > > > > > these pages, face the facts. It is
> > easy to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > satisfied with this just cause
> > > > > > > > when fighting the computer wars.
> But
> > > > would it
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > be a just cause if you
> > > > > > > > knew you were going to be among
> those
> > > > > > thousands of
> > > > > > > > irreversibly altered
> > > > > > > > returning bodies - or would you too
> be
> > > > > > switching to,
> > > > > > > > hell no, we won't go.
> > > > > > > > If you think this cause worth
> gambling
> > > > even
> > > > > > part of
> > > > > > > > you and willing to put
> > > > > > > > up and follow a wild ersatz Texas
> > cowboy,
> > > > I
> > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > you and will shut up.
> > > > > > > > But I won't be in back of you for
> this
> > > > one.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As long as the economy was put on
> the
> > > > > > electronic
> > > > > > > > table I assume by now you
> > > > > > > > all know that the tax cuts were not
> > tax
> > > > cuts
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > simply redistribution of
> > > > > > > > wealth. The savings of my guys has
> > long
> > > > since
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > more than eaten up by
> > > > > > > > non-progressive increases in gas
> > prices,
> > > > sales
> > > > > > > > taxes, state income taxes,
> > > > > > > > real estate taxes, tuition increases
> > > > (which is
> > > > > > > > really the longest lasting
> > > > > > > > and most detrimental to the health
> of
> > this
> > > > > > country -
> > > > > > > > read Brokaws The
> > > > > > > > Greatest Generation, tax increases)
> > and
> > > > > > endless food
> > > > > > > > and commodity price
> > > > > > > > increases. We have raised the price
> > of a
> > > > > > Rhodes one
> > > > > > > > thousand dollars and
> > > > > > > > that still does not make up for the
> > > > increases
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > steel, and resin and
> > > > > > > > aluminum and plywood - even with our
> > > > throwing
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > two social security checks
> > > > > > > > into the pot. I think those who were
> > > > having
> > > > > > > > difficulty connecting the dots
> > > > > > > > to our leader's vision of our
> future,
> > are
> > > > > > beginning
> > > > > > > > to see the picture. One
> > > > > > > > of my nightmare visions are the
> > fathers of
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > balanced budget taking the
> > > > > > > > national debt to infinity:
> Foreigners
> > > > pulling
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > of bonds, interest rates
> > > > > > > > skyrocketing, the housing starts
> > > > plummeting
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > worse, the record number of
> > > > > > > > credit card carrying Americans
> > suddenly
> > > > having
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > monthly interest burden
> > > > > > > > that will burry them - if they could
> > > > afford a
> > > > > > > > funeral. As one pundit put
> > > > > > > > it, Bush had campaigned to bring us
> > > > together
> > > > > > and he
> > > > > > > > is finally succeeding.
> > > > > > > > I think we already have enough Slims
> > out
> > > > there
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > put him out to pasture.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > stan/gbi
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > > > > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:01
> > PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]
> Politics
> > > > Geraldo
> > > > > > Rivera
> > > > > > > > reports
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Interesting Ed.
> > > > > > > > > I have always thought that Fox was
> > well
> > > > > > balanced
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > new. ABC, CBS & NBC are all
> liberal
> > > > > > networks. Or
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > least, I think so. I also think
> we
> > are
> > > > > > doing a
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > job over there. In the good old
> > days,
> > > > > > helping
> > > > > > > > poor
> > > > > > > > > abused people to achive freedom
> was
> > a
> > > > > > liberal
> > > > > > > > cause.
> > > > > > > > > But Clinton did not think to help
> > those
> > > > > > people so
> > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > > the dems. have to opose it. At
> > least we
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > helping
> > > > > > > > > them. That whats important.
> > > > > > > > > Steve
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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