Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Geraldo Rivera reports

Mon Apr 5 15:05:58 EDT 2004

Rik,

I agree with much of what you say. It helps when things are explained in a 
resonable manner rather than tossing insults. :-)

To me there is a big difference between WWII and now. Germany and Japan 
attacked pretty much the rest of the world. Iraq did attack Kuwait 15 or so 
years ago but for the most part that involved an age old border dispute. I 
was all for the first attck though as was most of the rest of the world.

I also agree that now that we are there we just can't walk away. I just 
think it was a mistake from the get go to attack when we did. Best as I can 
tell there was no threat to the US and we could blow up the country when 
ever we really needed to.

I think it may be wishful thinking that Iraq will ever be "stable" any time 
soon.

Glad you got down to your boat for a little R&R. One of these days i am 
going to make it up that way.

Wally

>From: Rik Sandberg <sanderico at earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list] Politics Geraldo Rivera 
>reports
>Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:55:20 -0500
>
>When the least ambitious among us can all afford an R22, The ambitious ones
>will be able to afford 2 Aleiron (sp) 28's or Hinckley day sailers
>(whatever). Always has been this way, can't imagine that it will ever 
>change.
>If we all distributed the wealth evenly amongst us, then probably no one
>would be able to afford an R 22. I wonder how many communist Russians or
>Chinese can afford a fancy boat like a Rhodes. Aren't those the places 
>where
>all the people have the same income??? You know, like communism???
>
>Most poor folks are that way because they either have little ambition, make
>bad choices, ot both. If we gave most of them a million dollars today, most
>would be worse off than they are now, a year or two from now.
>
>Somebody please show me a nation the U.S. has "taken over". Jeez people we
>kicked the shit out of both Germany and Japan, Who's running those 
>countries
>now??? Seems like if we were into take-overs, those two would have been 
>ripe
>for the picking.....NO?? Iraq will be no different. We'll hang around till 
>it
>looks stable and give it back to the people that live there, JUST LIKE WE
>ALWAYS HAVE IN THE PAST. Saddam Hussein needed to be taken down. We should
>have done it in '91, but we listened to the U.N. There was a mistake.! 
>While
>we were taking out Saddam, we were fortunate enough to also make an example
>of him and his government for all the rest of the folks in that area to 
>take
>note of. Many of whom had been getting kind of a bad attitude just like
>Saddam's. Seems attitudes are a lot better over there now, for the most 
>part.
>Sometimes talk won't do it, people don't take talk seriously if it doesn't
>lead to action. We'd been all talk, for many years. A big stick, now that
>will and did get somebody's attention.
>
>I feel for the men and their families who have sacrificed their lives or
>health in this conflict as much as the next guy. When they signed up to 
>serve
>their country, I believe they should have been prepared for events like 
>this.
>Nobady is twisting anyone's arm to join the armed services anymore, it's 
>all
>voluntary. If these people don't want to take part in wars and such, what 
>are
>they doing collecting a paycheck from the military. Wars, that is what the
>military does, is it not??? Anyone notice the lack of deaths on our soil
>lately??
>
>It's only been a little over a year. As these things go, that is not long. 
>I
>think a little patience is called for. I don't think we can just pack up 
>and
>leave Iraq now.
>
>Rik
>
>
>On Mon, Apr 05 2004 11:15 am, Steve wrote:
> > Stan you got error right but it's in your message.
> > The rick can buy one Rhodes.  But if taxes go down,
> > demand increases, which create more jobs.  Then you
> > have more taxes spread out to more poeple due to more
> > people haveing work.  Beside, why does govenment need
> > all those taxes.  More poeple working, more poeple can
> > buy a Rhodes.
> >
> > I will make you rich yet, Stan:-)
> > Steve
> >
> > PS - Now don't go get mad at me, I enjoyed meeting you
> > at Annoplis the other day.  I have nothing but respect
> > for you.  And when I make you rich, feel free to give
> > me a new boat:-)
> >
> > --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> > > *****ERROR******
> > >
> > >  - message said cutting progressive income taxes has
> > > led to the burden being
> > > transferred to increasing taxes on all
> > > non-progressive levels: (the list is
> > > too long to repeat and includes commodity prices
> > > which raise product
> > > prices).
> > >
> > > the rich guy can now afford to buy two Rhodes but
> > > will still buy only one
> > >
> > > the poor guy can now buy none
> > >
> > > ss/gbi
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:46 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Apology - was RE: [Rhodes22-list]
> > > Politics Geraldo Rivera
> > > reports
> > >
> > > > Its a Free Market system, Mark & Stan.  Supply &
> > > > demand!!!  You got to learn to live with it.
> > >
> > > Think
> > >
> > > > about it - EVERYBODY, can't live off welfare.  Who
> > > > would pay taxes.  You can't tax the rich so much
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > > it drives them out of business, then you get no
> > >
> > > tax
> > >
> > > > from them.  Stan said his state taxes were so high
> > >
> > > he
> > >
> > > > had to raise the cost of the Rhodes by I think
> > >
> > > $1,000.
> > >
> > >
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