[Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly good
tome:-{D>
Todd Tavares
sprocket80 at mail.com
Mon Apr 5 15:26:56 EDT 2004
Steve,
Now I have only read this one e-mail, since it was top of my inbox, so others may have brought up the same point. Seeing that Stan took time to post means it probably has.
Say for instance I make sailboats...no just say widgets. I sell widgets to a company in France for the equivalent of $10 US. They cost me $6 to manufacture. (factoring in for raw materials, labor, etc. etc) So for every widget I sell, I net $4 US.
So when the dollar loses ground against the Euro, I only get the equivalent of $8 US. You can see that the intersection of the supply and demand curves (mx+b = P = mx+b), "P" shifts dramatically.
Sure, I start to sell widgets like a madman, but I now have to sell twice as many. And now I have to hire another worker to keep up with orders. To a government analyst, it appears that my sales go off the chart, (gross sales maybe) but my profit is cut by more than half. But some guy found a job, and the French guy I sell to is taking holiday on Mikinos.
BTW when I was laid off, I was three months out of the Army, my wife had a seven month old baby to care for. I had not yet passed my union probation which meant that I did not have health insurance. Besides, I wasn't living off your dime anyway...it was all of the dimes I had been putting in since I was working from the age 15 and paying taxes. Of course it would have taken quite a few less dimes if I was living in Arkansas at the time.
It is good to know that you have never needed a helping hand. But I am right here if you need it, brother.
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly good tome:-{D>
> Todd
>
> Since folks seem to need an Econ 101 lession, here it
> it:
> ECONOMISTS, chief executives and Washington policy
> makers have hailed the weakened dollar as good news
> for the United States. After all, when the dollar
> loses value against the euro or the British pound, for
> instance, it should make American-made goods cost less
> in markets that use those currencies. Cheaper prices
> should stimulate bigger orders for American companies,
> especially those in the hard-hit manufacturing sector.
> And, as manufacturers exhaust their ability to produce
> more goods without adding labor, the pace of job
> creation should accelerate
>
> I glad you have 2 hand & can support you family also.
> If you don't, that mean I have to. Thet are not my
> family. Beside, I hope they are helping you. They
> all have 2 hands also. Don't know why you would work
> odd job; McDonald is always hiring. Your wife & kids
> should have all had jobs, you work & you would have
> been better for it. Face it, you took the easy way
> out. Got on food stamps & waited for someone to give
> you a job that you thought wasn't beneight you to do.
> Lot of people do this.
>
> Not one time in my entire life of any of my family
> life did we ever get on food stamps or any other
> welfare program. Time have been hard a few time in my
> life. But I don't let the other tax payers support
> me. Remember, when you are taking money from the
> govenment on one of it welfare program - you are NOT
> supporting yourself. People like me are supporting
> you. I'm not rich by any mean - BUT I ALWAYS SUPPORT
> MYSELF.
> Steve
>
> PS- Aren't Medicare taxes taken out of every paycheck.
> Incase you don't know the answer; they are. Even
> though the fact that this is true - People should plan
> for retirement and not leave it up to the government
> to take care of them. Whats wrong with most liberals
> is that they spend every dine they get thier hands on,
> got to have all the new toys today, NEVER plan for
> tomorrow. Then when it time for retirement; they
> expect the other tax payers to support them. And what
> did they do to help themselves; nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > Well Steve,
> >
> > I am still trying to figure out if I am a
> > liberal-conservative or a conservative-liberal.
> > Since my office is on the top floor of the closest
> > federal building to the White House, (Dept. of
> > Commerce....15th St & Pennsylvania Ave.) maybe this
> > will confuse potential terrorists too, and if they
> > try that plane trick again, I hope they end up
> > parked next to Air Florida flight 90.
> >
> > I guess that being on welfare, makes one a
> > liberal by definition?
> >
> > I just thank God that I have two hands and I am
> > healthy enough to work to support my family. It
> > could easily be me on that corner with a cardboard
> > "homeless and hungry" sign, so I pitch a few coins
> > into their paper cups when I pass by. Ask THAT guy
> > if he is a liberal or a conservative of if he
> > agrees.
> >
> > I work in a unionized trade where all work is
> > handed by the union hall and lay-offs follow the
> > work. When I was still an apprentice, I was laid
> > off for several months. I worked odd jobs and had
> > to rely on food stamps and coupons for milk, bread,
> > baby formula, and diapers. Was it embarassing to
> > stand in line at the local grocery store and have my
> > neighbors see me paying with food stamps? Sure! but
> > you know, frankly I didn't care. My family's
> > "welfare" was more important than my pride.
> >
> > Crazy things happen every day. I could get hit by
> > a bus and my family be forced to accept welfare. (I
> > guess only conservatives are smart enough or rich
> > enough have disability or life insurance) So, you
> > see, I don't like to knock anyone when they are
> > down. If you think the welfare system is broken and
> > too many liberals are getting a free ride on your
> > dime then write to your congressman with suggestions
> > how to fix it.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > P.S. I haven't heard you complain about them
> > doggone old people living off your medicare taxes
> > yet?!?! :-) Whoooooosh (sound of a can of worms
> > being opened) LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----From: Steve
> > <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> > been belly belly good to me:-{D>
> >
> > > Don't worry Todd. My tax dollars will keep
> > flowing
> > > for all the liberals welfare checks. You all can
> > > count on me:-) I just hope that when the next
> > round
> > > of attacks on US soil; they hit a bunch of
> > liberals.
> > > That way no one will expect us to retaliate.
> > Surely,
> > > you all agree:-)
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I try to stay out of the threads about
> > politics
> > > > because quite frankly, I am naive about politics
> > in
> > > > general.
> > > >
> > > > But thanks to a few nice fellers here, I'm
> > getting
> > > > quite smart.
> > > >
> > > > I have learned:
> > > >
> > > > (1) New words (had to look them up) like
> > vitriolic,
> > > > pundit, insular and oligarchic; and even some
> > near
> > > > words like (such as) neanderthalesque, and
> > > > previcating
> > > >
> > > > (2) I learned that trees are a crop and if we
> > cut
> > > > all of them suckers down in California, then
> > those
> > > > million dollar houses would not burn up. (I
> > guess
> > > > then they wouldn't have anything to crash into
> > when
> > > > they slide down the hillsides either)
> > > >
> > > > (3) (I missed this in ECON 101) If the dollar
> > > > weakens globally, then our products become more
> > > > competitive on the world market. I am still
> > trying
> > > > to figure out if this is a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > (4) It is Bill Clinton's fault that the World
> > > > Trade towers were destroyed..and (4a)...someone
> > was
> > > > there when he got his "Monica"?!?
> > > >
> > > > (5) If we want to fight terrorism in a world
> > war,
> > > > then we need to take the fight to where the
> > > > terrorists are.........but where are they?
> > (still
> > > > scratching my head)
> > > >
> > > > (6) Bill Clinton paid off the national debt,
> > but
> > > > Bush ran it up again (that dirty bastard!!).
> > And
> > > > NOPE, I am not giving the $600 back!! Besides
> > it
> > > > trickled down......don't ask where either. :-)
> > > > (alright...I pissed it away OK? LOL)
> > > >
> > > > (7) If I run all of my credit cards up to
> > their
> > > > limits and get a mailbox full of bills, am I a
> > > > liberal before I write checks and still have
> > > > "surplus" of money in my checking account and a
> > > > conservative after I pay all of my monthly
> > bills!?
> > > > (that seems backwards to me)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I would be more knowledgeable about
> > such
> > > > things if I cut back to only working 60 hours a
> > week
> > > > -- (trying to make ends meet) -- and start
> > watching
> > > > the news.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > :-) Todd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> >
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