[Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly goodtome:-{D>
Todd Tavares
sprocket80 at mail.com
Mon Apr 5 16:18:55 EDT 2004
Marc,
I probably do have it backwards. Too many years since I was a freshman in college and taking econ 101 LOL. (sorry Steve) /:-0
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Steiger" <Marc.Steiger at dlptech.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 15:41:33 -0400
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly goodtome:-{D>
> Todd-
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> I think you have it backwords on the drop in the value of the dollar. If you sell widgets to a company in France for $10, and the value of the dollar goes down against the euro, then you will receive more dollars for every widget sold. A drop in the dollar will make it harder to import, and easier to export goods and services. It will tend to increase inflation because imports will start to be priced higher. It will have a negative effect on our financial markets because foreigners will get their returns in a decreasing value dollar. But it will have a positive impact on our exports, and therefore a positive impact on the labor markets.
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> Marc
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly
> goodtome:-{D>
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> Steve,
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> Now I have only read this one e-mail, since it was top of my inbox, so others may have brought up the same point. Seeing that Stan took time to post means it probably has.
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> Say for instance I make sailboats...no just say widgets. I sell widgets to a company in France for the equivalent of $10 US. They cost me $6 to manufacture. (factoring in for raw materials, labor, etc. etc) So for every widget I sell, I net $4 US.
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> So when the dollar loses ground against the Euro, I only get the equivalent of $8 US. You can see that the intersection of the supply and demand curves (mx+b = P = mx+b), "P" shifts dramatically.
> Sure, I start to sell widgets like a madman, but I now have to sell twice as many. And now I have to hire another worker to keep up with orders. To a government analyst, it appears that my sales go off the chart, (gross sales maybe) but my profit is cut by more than half. But some guy found a job, and the French guy I sell to is taking holiday on Mikinos.
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> BTW when I was laid off, I was three months out of the Army, my wife had a seven month old baby to care for. I had not yet passed my union probation which meant that I did not have health insurance. Besides, I wasn't living off your dime anyway...it was all of the dimes I had been putting in since I was working from the age 15 and paying taxes. Of course it would have taken quite a few less dimes if I was living in Arkansas at the time.
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> It is good to know that you have never needed a helping hand. But I am right here if you need it, brother.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT)
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread been belly belly good tome:-{D>
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> > Todd
> >
> > Since folks seem to need an Econ 101 lession, here it
> > it:
> > ECONOMISTS, chief executives and Washington policy
> > makers have hailed the weakened dollar as good news
> > for the United States. After all, when the dollar
> > loses value against the euro or the British pound, for
> > instance, it should make American-made goods cost less
> > in markets that use those currencies. Cheaper prices
> > should stimulate bigger orders for American companies,
> > especially those in the hard-hit manufacturing sector.
> > And, as manufacturers exhaust their ability to produce
> > more goods without adding labor, the pace of job
> > creation should accelerate
> >
> > I glad you have 2 hand & can support you family also.
> > If you don't, that mean I have to. Thet are not my
> > family. Beside, I hope they are helping you. They
> > all have 2 hands also. Don't know why you would work
> > odd job; McDonald is always hiring. Your wife & kids
> > should have all had jobs, you work & you would have
> > been better for it. Face it, you took the easy way
> > out. Got on food stamps & waited for someone to give
> > you a job that you thought wasn't beneight you to do.
> > Lot of people do this.
> >
> > Not one time in my entire life of any of my family
> > life did we ever get on food stamps or any other
> > welfare program. Time have been hard a few time in my
> > life. But I don't let the other tax payers support
> > me. Remember, when you are taking money from the
> > govenment on one of it welfare program - you are NOT
> > supporting yourself. People like me are supporting
> > you. I'm not rich by any mean - BUT I ALWAYS SUPPORT
> > MYSELF.
> > Steve
> >
> > PS- Aren't Medicare taxes taken out of every paycheck.
> > Incase you don't know the answer; they are. Even
> > though the fact that this is true - People should plan
> > for retirement and not leave it up to the government
> > to take care of them. Whats wrong with most liberals
> > is that they spend every dine they get thier hands on,
> > got to have all the new toys today, NEVER plan for
> > tomorrow. Then when it time for retirement; they
> > expect the other tax payers to support them. And what
> > did they do to help themselves; nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > > Well Steve,
> > >
> > > I am still trying to figure out if I am a
> > > liberal-conservative or a conservative-liberal.
> > > Since my office is on the top floor of the closest
> > > federal building to the White House, (Dept. of
> > > Commerce....15th St & Pennsylvania Ave.) maybe this
> > > will confuse potential terrorists too, and if they
> > > try that plane trick again, I hope they end up
> > > parked next to Air Florida flight 90.
> > >
> > > I guess that being on welfare, makes one a
> > > liberal by definition?
> > >
> > > I just thank God that I have two hands and I am
> > > healthy enough to work to support my family. It
> > > could easily be me on that corner with a cardboard
> > > "homeless and hungry" sign, so I pitch a few coins
> > > into their paper cups when I pass by. Ask THAT guy
> > > if he is a liberal or a conservative of if he
> > > agrees.
> > >
> > > I work in a unionized trade where all work is
> > > handed by the union hall and lay-offs follow the
> > > work. When I was still an apprentice, I was laid
> > > off for several months. I worked odd jobs and had
> > > to rely on food stamps and coupons for milk, bread,
> > > baby formula, and diapers. Was it embarassing to
> > > stand in line at the local grocery store and have my
> > > neighbors see me paying with food stamps? Sure! but
> > > you know, frankly I didn't care. My family's
> > > "welfare" was more important than my pride.
> > >
> > > Crazy things happen every day. I could get hit by
> > > a bus and my family be forced to accept welfare. (I
> > > guess only conservatives are smart enough or rich
> > > enough have disability or life insurance) So, you
> > > see, I don't like to knock anyone when they are
> > > down. If you think the welfare system is broken and
> > > too many liberals are getting a free ride on your
> > > dime then write to your congressman with suggestions
> > > how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > > P.S. I haven't heard you complain about them
> > > doggone old people living off your medicare taxes
> > > yet?!?! :-) Whoooooosh (sound of a can of worms
> > > being opened) LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----From: Steve
> > > <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dis politics thread
> > > been belly belly good to me:-{D>
> > >
> > > > Don't worry Todd. My tax dollars will keep
> > > flowing
> > > > for all the liberals welfare checks. You all can
> > > > count on me:-) I just hope that when the next
> > > round
> > > > of attacks on US soil; they hit a bunch of
> > > liberals.
> > > > That way no one will expect us to retaliate.
> > > Surely,
> > > > you all agree:-)
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I try to stay out of the threads about
> > > politics
> > > > > because quite frankly, I am naive about politics
> > > in
> > > > > general.
> > > > >
> > > > > But thanks to a few nice fellers here, I'm
> > > getting
> > > > > quite smart.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have learned:
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) New words (had to look them up) like
> > > vitriolic,
> > > > > pundit, insular and oligarchic; and even some
> > > near
> > > > > words like (such as) neanderthalesque, and
> > > > > previcating
> > > > >
> > > > > (2) I learned that trees are a crop and if we
> > > cut
> > > > > all of them suckers down in California, then
> > > those
> > > > > million dollar houses would not burn up. (I
> > > guess
> > > > > then they wouldn't have anything to crash into
> > > when
> > > > > they slide down the hillsides either)
> > > > >
> > > > > (3) (I missed this in ECON 101) If the dollar
> > > > > weakens globally, then our products become more
> > > > > competitive on the world market. I am still
> > > trying
> > > > > to figure out if this is a good thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > (4) It is Bill Clinton's fault that the World
> > > > > Trade towers were destroyed..and (4a)...someone
> > > was
> > > > > there when he got his "Monica"?!?
> > > > >
> > > > > (5) If we want to fight terrorism in a world
> > > war,
> > > > > then we need to take the fight to where the
> > > > > terrorists are.........but where are they?
> > > (still
> > > > > scratching my head)
> > > > >
> > > > > (6) Bill Clinton paid off the national debt,
> > > but
> > > > > Bush ran it up again (that dirty bastard!!).
> > > And
> > > > > NOPE, I am not giving the $600 back!! Besides
> > > it
> > > > > trickled down......don't ask where either. :-)
> > > > > (alright...I pissed it away OK? LOL)
> > > > >
> > > > > (7) If I run all of my credit cards up to
> > > their
> > > > > limits and get a mailbox full of bills, am I a
> > > > > liberal before I write checks and still have
> > > > > "surplus" of money in my checking account and a
> > > > > conservative after I pay all of my monthly
> > > bills!?
> > > > > (that seems backwards to me)
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I would be more knowledgeable about
> > > such
> > > > > things if I cut back to only working 60 hours a
> > > week
> > > > > -- (trying to make ends meet) -- and start
> > > watching
> > > > > the news.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > :-) Todd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > >
> > >
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